What is Pagerank Sculpting?

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Is Pagerank is dead ?

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  1. #1
    What is Pagerank Sculpting and how to use it to increase the pagrank?
     
    k2seo, Jul 20, 2009 IP
  2. Canonical

    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    PR Sculpting is now dead (or at least traditional PR Sculpting using rel="nofollow")... The way it used to work is that if a page had a PR of X and that same page had 10 outbound links on it then each outbound link would be passed approximately X/10 PR. If you nofollowed 5 of the 10 outbound links then the remaining 5 outbound links would be passed X/5 PR (i.e. nofollow'ing half of the outbounds would double the amount of PR passed to the remaining followed outbounds). So people began nofollow'ing links to things like about-us, contact-us, terms of service, privacy policy, etc. (i.e. pages that they didn't really care about ranking) so that extra PR would be passed to the remaining followed outbound links. In other words, they would sculpt where the PR was funneled by using nofollow on unimportant links.

    But last month Matt Cutts announced that Google had changed how nofollow affected the flow of PR. Read the entire post but the crucial part is the paragraph just before the first Q&A:

    Now if a page has a PR of X and 10 outbound links - 5 followed and 5 nofollowed - then the 5 followed links are passed only X/10 PR and the PR that would have been passed to the 5 nofollowed links is thrown away... goes into a blackhole... wasted...

    So it does absolutely no good to place rel="nofollow" on internal links. In fact it reduces the overall PR of all of the pages on your site because it creates PR sinks... PR blackholes... where PR goes in but doesn't come out (or some of it doesn't come out) to be recirculated throughout your site.

    If you want to do PR Sculpting now, you have to do it using good internal linking and/or javascript linking to direct the flow of PR.
     
    Canonical, Jul 20, 2009 IP
  3. Alan Smith

    Alan Smith Active Member

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    #3
    thanks for the information...good info...
     
    Alan Smith, Jul 20, 2009 IP
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    tag44 Peon

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    Thanks Canonical, man you always help others in each & every query or problems, i remember that you have helped me too in one of my problem.
     
    tag44, Jul 20, 2009 IP
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    lakelandprinting Peon

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    It's nice to see someone take the time to post a reply like that. Rep Added
     
    lakelandprinting, Jul 20, 2009 IP
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    thefandango Active Member

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    Amazing isn't it, how Google can swing through 360 degrees and then expect everyone to just jump through the new hoops.
     
    thefandango, Jul 20, 2009 IP
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    webmasterlabor.com Peon

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    Thank you for the helpful post. + rep added. These are the kind of posts that make it worthwhile to wade through the tons of noise posts here.

     
    webmasterlabor.com, Jul 20, 2009 IP
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    Lenn_Flo Peon

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    don't worry about it, it no longer works.
     
    Lenn_Flo, Jul 21, 2009 IP
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    @Canonical you provide a good information about PR Sculpting thanks for sharing...
     
    krist11, Jul 21, 2009 IP
  10. k2seo

    k2seo Greenhorn

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    #10
    Thank you very much, For providing this important information
     
    k2seo, Jul 22, 2009 IP
  11. HighRankingSEO

    HighRankingSEO Well-Known Member

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    #11
    Pagerank isn't dead. Traditional PR Scultping with the nofollow tag is...

    Here is a new method that I see a lot of people adopting (as well as myself). It is called link consilation.

    What you do-
    -Combine all your similar content that can afford to be on a single page and then anchor it. Just use the old <a ="name"> then when you reference it with a link or anything yoursite.com/#name

    You can check an example of how I did this...still have more work to do but here is an example:
    http://www.rehabilitation-center.org/addiction-training-seminars.html

    Hope that helps.

    PS: There are other ways to sculpt but most involve JS or frames.
     
    HighRankingSEO, Jul 22, 2009 IP
  12. HighRankingSEO

    HighRankingSEO Well-Known Member

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    I should also add...to pass any links you may have on the pages that you will combine....301 them to their proper anchor or the page they are on. The link juice will pass as well as the anchor text.

    Good luck,

    Sean

    One more thing: If you can ever take advice from someone in this forum, Canonical is the man. He helped me out with a very unqiue issue before. He is a maven to the death.
     
    HighRankingSEO, Jul 22, 2009 IP
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    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    This is basiscally what I said when I mentioned:

     
    Canonical, Jul 22, 2009 IP
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    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    I don't think the 301s are necessary. Google (and likely the other major engines) ignore the "#" and everything to the right of it in the URL when indexing URLs. They know it's an anchor and they get the same content whether they request href="http://www.example.com/somepage.html, href="http://www.example.com/somepage.html#anchor1, href="http://www.example.com/somepage.html#anchor2, etc.

    So <a href="http://www.example.com/somepage.html#someanchor">link text</a> is seen and indexed by Google as <a href="http://www.example.com/somepage.html">link text</a>.
     
    Canonical, Jul 22, 2009 IP