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What if Muslims accidentally drink alcohol?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Darpie, May 10, 2010.

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    All juice contain sugars. Many juices are pasteurized that kills all bacteria and yeasts. Those that do not get pasteurized can be effected minutely by the wild yeasts that naturally occur in the air.
    Alcoholics that cannot drink alcohol can drink them and not feel a thing, the same with kidlets.

    When, say, natural unpasteurized apple juice sits out or for a long time in the fridge can get naturally 'working', very slowly turning into wine and get bubbly because of the wild yeast.
    The yeast then eats the sugars, reproduces and CO2 and small amounts of alcohol are the by-products.
    This process will happen more quickly when out of the fridge.

    This is called natural fermentation, and it means if you've ever had a glass of juice then it might have had alcohol in it and you drank it without knowing.

    Does this mean you will stop drinking juice?
    SEMrush
     
    Darpie, May 10, 2010 IP
    SEMrush
  2. Radz

    Radz Notable Member

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    You should be careful when drinking it, most of the time its clearly written that if "Juice" contains alcohol or not, if you drink it without knowing you should feel sorry and ashamed on what you did, and should do Tauba to God.

    Tauba means that if a person many slip into folly and be guilty of a sin or an act of transgression against the law of God he should feel genuinely sorry and ashamed over it, and resolve sincerely not to do so again, and seek the forgiveness of God with all his heart. It is stated in the Quran and the Traditions that by doing only this much a man’s sin is forgiven and he succeeds in winning the pleasure of the Almighty.

    Hope it clears your confusion..
     
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    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    If Muslims drink alcohol, even unintentionally, Allah will get really mad and will throw them into hell to burn forever for not being careful enough with their habits. Non-muslims, on the other side, won't go to hell because they didn't read the Quran and don't know that drinking alcohol is so wrong.

    You are welcome.
     
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    Helvetii Notable Member

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    ^ I love that! ^_^
     
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    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    Oh, in that case I assume that they will stop making sense and start talking nonsense.
    oh wait......:p
     
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    This is a question to all the Muslims which I don't understand.

    Why muslims are banned from alcohol on earth...when the Quran clearly promises wine and drinking in heaven ?
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    Slightly off topic, but the Quran says alcohol is satans handiwork:"O ye who believe! Intoxicants and Gambling, (Dedication of) stones, And (divination by) arrows, Are an Abomination – Of Satan’s handiwork; Eschew such (abomination), That ye may prosper." [Al-Qur’an 5:90]

    In contrast...

    Here's a story about Jesus turning water into wine to drink at a party.
     
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  8. luke12

    luke12 Member

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    WoW. Well..first of all, you have to admit that your Quran - assumed to be the "book of God" is contradicting itself.
    Why did you ignore this verse ?

    "Here is a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. (Koran 47:15)

    So Satan's work (alcohol) according to you got into heaven? In fact, they've got rivers!

    Now..did you also know according to your islamic major collection of hadith - Sahih hadith , Mohammed himself did drink wine!
    "We were with the messenger of Allah, PBUH and he asked for a drink. One of his men said: "Oh Messenger of Allah, Can we offer you wine to drink?" He said Yes. He (Gaber) went out looking for the drink and came back with a cup of wine. The messenger (Peace Be Upon him) asked, “Have you covered it with a twig in a transverse manner” He (Gaber) said, “Yes” and he (Muhammad) drank"

    Now, you're trying to compare it with the miraculous work of Jesus? The fact is..this was one of his first miracles to show people that he is truly the son of God. Second, it was at a noble wedding, not a random party. Old testament taught us that wine should be consumed wisely and with good intentions- avoiding drunkenness. “Drink your wine with a merry heart” (psalm).
    Alcohol is not a sin...it is drunkenness and addiction by allowing something to have control of you.
     
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    Rebbeca is not pro-Quran or Anti-Jesus (?)
     
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    Rory M Peon

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    Yeah but that's an-aerobic respiration, just never put a cap on anything. Sure you'll die of food poisoning in the long term, but at least you dont have to worry about microscopic levels of alcohol xD
     
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    Thanks, Helvetii.

    That's a fairly accurate assessment of my views.
     
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    Not requiring oxygen doesn't mean that it will not happen if oxygen is present.

    In fact, the only anaerobic organisms that are aerotolerant are the fermentative ones.

    In other words, you're SOL.
     
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    babak44 Active Member

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    I'm honor to tell you that first one who discover Alcohol was and Iranian name "Zakariya Razi" in 9th century. all the Iranian Alcoholic celebrate his birthday in 28 August! lol
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhazes

    [​IMG]

    as I saw all the Juice that sell in Markets have date of consume so guess in it's time nothing happen for Juice.
    in the Koran mentioned clearly about wine and alcohol so guess your question unrelated to those verses. but about this one:

    in this case no problem at all if that Muslim didn't know about alcohol in there.
     
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    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    Who says Muslims don't drink alcohol? I know plenty of Muslims who do.
     
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    just curious, in which part of Quran mentioned Muslim will throw into hell for drinking alcohol?
     
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    Awsome man. Didn't know that.
    My favorite Israeli singer was born in Iran too.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBYHoNtvJO4


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_(Israeli_singer)
    http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/ریتا_(خواننده)
     
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    good point.
    They say in heaven are beautiful lovers
    Sweet taste of wine in the air hovers
    Fear not if succumbed to same earthly powers
    In the end the same, one discovers.

    never heard about it. can you tell me the source?

    I heard in Jesus belt, alcohol is bad thing and baptists and Mormons don't drink any type of it?
     
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    Chaostrivia.
    thanks for the link I didn't know that but heard many Persian Jews living in Israel and they love Iran.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews
    Iranian was friend with Jews from ancient times.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jul/12/israel.iran

    Iranian Jews in Israel worry for former homeland
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/iranian-jews-in-israel-worry-for-former-homeland-1.188013
     
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    One of my muslim friend drink soda after alcohol. He is an alcoholic. I know many muslim people like that. But i am 100 percent non-alcoholic.
     
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