What if Muhammad ibn ‘Abdullāh was never born?

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What if Muhammad ibn ‘Abdullāh was never born?

  1. World would have been way better off!

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  2. I can't Imagine a world without Muhammad, he was such a paragon of integrity!!

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  1. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    babak44 Active Member

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    #42
    seems we were wrong "Mir-Hossein Mousavi" Iranian opposition became first! not lady Gaga.
    if you look at link will see it


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    Cast your votes for the leaders, artists, innovators and icons who you think are the most influential people in the world. Though official voting for inclusion on the TIME 100 list has now closed, with Mir-Hossein Mousavi having won the honor, users can continue to vote for their favorites until the list is revealed on Thursday.
     
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    #43
    Ahh ok I fudged that up, but since when is Google our moral compass ;)
     
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    #44
    There is something wrong when the profits including Christ and Muhammad become integral with their teachings i.e. the profits teachings are the test of time not the purveyors, just as stated in the Koran that God would not reveal a name is a contradiction to both Christ and Muhammad - They were chosen characters, not the religion.

    Failure of both religions to evolve with time to the refined conclusions worthy for remittance is why there is no resolution to date.


    * it was stated God would not give a name as being in the Koran but haven't the origin.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #45
    There is something wrong when you try to compare Jesus with mohamud - the two are opposing figures and one is far greater than the other. One spoke truth and Love the other, well we can see what the other spoke.

    There is also something wrong when you try to make Jesus profit. But that may just be you inability to purvey the English language in a way that those who speak the tongue can understand.
     
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    #46
    Comparing Jesus Christ, Mohamed with / or to any other Prophet is perfectly legitimate as there is only one God irregardless the mesenger....hale to all the Prophets to the one Creator as are all the people created the same.

    The actions of those affiliated as Christians through time have followed anything but the teachings of truth and love - demonstrated from their day of inception to the present. Their Bible is no less an albatross than the Koran in seeking remittance which for neither is a map to the everlasting that is yet to be found.
     
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    #47
    I cannot make people follow Jesus' teachings. Whether or not you believe that Jesus existed is one thing, but I look at the contents of the Bible. And I compare that to the content of the quaran.
    There are people who claim Christianity and mislead people. Sure. But that doesn't alter the content of the book. There are good people who believe in Muhammed. Does it take away the content in the quaran talking about how to deal with non believers?
    Let's stick to the teachings and not the individual actions of the followers before we decide whether or not the book promotes peace or war.

    I can always find you some fool who claims something and does the other. But when you look at only what is being taught, then you should determine what is worth promoting and what the effects of promoting the other might be.
     
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    Opposing figure! as I see non of us knows both religions quite well but as I know, Jesus never got power in any land in his life time whereas Muhammad got it.
    before Mohammad got power in Arabia, his messages concept was nearly same as Jesus I guess.
     
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    good question I think.
    yes it has for different non believers.
    - for who believe in God but don't accept Islam, like Jews and Christian.
    - for who don't believe in God.
    - for Muslim who deny Islam or convert to another religion.
     
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    #50
    Jesus did not come to show power and might (except in conquering death), but love and redemption. Jesus will come back again and show His power. mohamud conquered by the sword, died by the sword and will not ever come back again. dead, dust, ashes, gone. One fulfilled the law and prophets - the other broke the laws, even the new ones he made up and pretended to be a prophet. You can't really compare the two, it would more appropriately be called contrasting.
     
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    thanks Debunked for information.
    just curious to know from where you got this information? is it mentioned in Bible? can you tell me the verse and source?
    did you mean when Jesus return will start fight with infidels or something like that?

    I guess during 2 thousands years world changed a lot!
     
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    #52
    Muhammad Is Icon / Example of Trust, Peace, And Problem Solver.
    I Can't Imagine if He Never Born in This World.


    Do You Know ? Before Islam & Other Religion Come To The World.....
    War, Hatred, Racist, Were Born. Islam also with Other Religions Come to Fix It.
    So War, Hatred, & Racist Is Was Born Before Religions Come

    sorry my english bad, i just want to fix this missunderstanding.
     
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    #53
    Much of what Jesus will do on His return is in Revelations.
    He is called the lamb and lion for a reason - He showed us the lamb already, but on His return He will come as the Lion.
     
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    #54
    Only were evil to triumph would God return as a "Lion" for the obvious reason. Just why would Christ return than the Creator or for what other reason than to destroy evil or praise good at the very end....perhaps better interpretations is what religions are really about.
     
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    #55
    Do you not see how much evil is in this world?
    BTW, Christ is the creator, you should try reading the Bible instead of just assume what it says or go by what someone else tells you it says.
     
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