All this 'Chris' contributed to is the mess the directory industry is in at the moment smub whether you like to admit it or not. Your making this guy out to be some kind of hero when he wasn't, even though he spent money on links as you said, there was a motive to that and that was to get his PR elevated so he could get his money back tenfold with a high PR. This plan backfired and he's where he is right now because of it. I don't know this Chris guy personally so wish him no ill will, I would love for him to succeed as I would with anyone. But for goodness sake, stop making the guy out to be some kind of guru saviour for the directory scene, it makes you sound naive.
Even when he had sponsored the template, he would still submit links. Chris definitely kept this sector financed with the jump-start ability to promote by submitting a lot of his projects, and for pipes to see it otherwise, well, I guess pipes is just plain blind. Anywho, I say let him along his way in his own little world i guess. Chris still maintains his directories, but also is focusing on his main software. He's also had some PC issues with his raid controller that hindered his online activity for a little bit. The last time I spoke with him he seemed fine, and was just mainly focusing on trying to get his new PC up and running, since he has to upgrade his software to accommodate Microsoft's new Vista.
it ridiculous to say this I had submissions from a lot of different people then certainly there was chris and a few other heavy submitters but to say all directories were running because of him is laughable
@smub I didnt say he was GOD....lol or the savior of the entire industry ( you guys take things to literally ) Only that he helped "many here at DP" with their directories and when the s**t hit the fan all the haters showed their true colors and faces.... (even had one guy comment that he rolled over on his "competitor" at G webmasters which was arcadeforce.com which was one of chris directories ) just because he was above him in the serps... Chris didn't need the back-links he did it to help others as new directories had nothing really to offer him... and he STILL has more back-links then most directories.... over 1 million in yahoo thx malcolm
This is turning to another Everybody loves Chris discussion. And guess who ruined that thread which was intended to learn and question chris' and others ways to promote their directories. PS: I earned a lot of red from that thread also that was before the penalties of google...
Id be embarrased if i had people speaking about me in that way, ive not read something so crazy in a long term, i know why you blow smoke, but your wasting that smoke now if you know what i mean ive got 4 directories and since ive settled last year ive stuck with 4, i personally had not seen a lot of the members names on dp before using the directory section of the forums so was completely unaware of most people. Regarding no one submitting but the one guy, not strictly true, a handful of others did too, dont really need to mention names. Not saying he didn't contribute, thats an obvious and clear fact, he gave good business, he didn't brag about spending, seemed polite, but he wasn't holding the whole thing together, i mean c'mon, Chris, if or when you read this "you were not keeping alive the whole directory industry" someones gotta say it, i dont even think the guy thinks this, i think its only said for him. Anyway, enough on a guy whos not here anyway. Il be interested to see who still owns a directory this time next year, personally i think it will be a rather different landscape.
Its cool Anon, im happy in my world and im still here, i stay quite realistic and dont expect everday to be easy thats why since last year ive argued for directories and their reputation when most cant be bothered to.
Of course not, but people would launch directories expecting his support. Someone would throw phpLD on a new domain, say they were going to promote it "heavily" and give other details like their unique template that was on the way. They would have regular links set at around $20, featured at $40. Chris would submit at least 20 sites usually. Therefore people would make $400 - $800 within their first days of being launched. Then when the directory was cached and they soon realised their $400 from Chris wasn't going to last long they went straight to sitepoint. They claimed to not have enough time to run the directory. After banking the $1500 from the sale, they'd turn to their mates and laugh at how easy it was. Basically Chris made a lot of kids have the ability to buy some cool toys. This wasn't just normal directories. The bid directory owners benefited heavily, probably more. And yes, before someone mentions it, I was one of those that recieved a lot from him. More than enough to buy a cool car from what he bidded on ZL. Whilst going slightly off topic, I didn't buy a car. I reinvested it all in another directory. Needless to say I am very grateful for what he did. It got to the point where he was no longer needed around this forum. Unfortunately he was one of many that left. There was nothing to stay for, even the cool guys like myself Anyway, he hasn't died or anything silly, we should stop talking about him. There is nothing wrong with him or his amazingly designed directory. Cheers for letting us know Rob. Hope he struggles along nicely with vista
post #32 of that particular thread was *THE* best post in it. Anywho, it's apparently obvious you have discord towards chris, So maybe use PM's next time rather than making these ludicrous threads and posts. in-short: Resolve your issues from within via PM. ps.s - You've earned more red. I signed it, as always. Excellent! I will be expecting to see you around this time of year, next year As far as that landscape you spoke about, hehe, well, some may just be eager to click the convert form phpLD--> to ????? in due time! :evil grin:
hahahaha funny stuff.... an0n, malcolm1, 3rb0, bcdxer, Boulder, brazenmedia, dasha101, dvduval, Kel, LakeCountry, magyar, mikey1090, pipes, stoner3221, swedal See what the little birdies bring out?
Rob, when do you celebrate your birthday? I'll have to buy you some binoculars. You might see things sooner that way
I don't have a problem with him, I even sent him pms with some suggestions to improve alive, before all those penalisations. I respect him as a person but I don't agree with his way to promote. and time proved me right. rep is always welcome. everybody should be proud of a red rep coming from you
I like Chris and hope Alive live... It looks that Chris lost some of his passion in directory industry. I guess Google is killer.
Because *you* don't approve, someone is suppose to *jump* at what you say? Are you a comedian now? Who the hell are you to know what will and won't improve things? You're just guess work like the vast majority of wannabe seo's. So, Gaygle came down on the directories that were ratted out and falsely accused of malicious acts. Well, Chris promoted to gain exposure. So just because he didn't use FagWords and spent money in alternative and better ways, he gets penalized? Oh, now you are going to claim PR was chased? Then explain how submitting to new directories is exactly chasing PR? Man, go blog a ripped off MOD or something while I tend to and test my latest creation.
I can't wait until you release a dictionary. I expect to have your translation of Analytics, Adsense and Webmaster tools when I log in tomorrow morning (in 8 hours).
While I do think Chris did a lot of good, this is the one area where I think he did a world of bad too. There were many really crappy directories that he purchased from. Many of them are long gone - sold, left to die, or simply taken down. He made it attractive and profitable to be a part of the QBC and that has hurt all of us. I must admit though it was a bit of masterful marketing. I imagine quite a few of his purchases led to those newbie directory owners returning the favor and purchasing links on Alive and his other directories.
I had a few directories (which were at the very least 6months old) at the time and Chris didnt submit anywhere near 20 sites to each of them I doubt how he would be throwing money at sites setup only days before hoping to get his money He knew what he was doing and I doubt someone promising promotion, template etc would make him submit anyway no matter tbh, its done done done