What does a girl have to do to get DMOZ to list her site.

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by HowHotels.com, Sep 12, 2009.

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    As most of you know, I work for this really cool SEO startup, anyway we have these VIP clients who have asked specifically to be listed on certain sites. One of those sites is DMOZ.

    My boss submitted it once, now he wants me to monitor it to see if it was listed and I get an email like every week asking for status.

    Now what's the deal? Really why aren't these sites being listed. I mean the category has not been update in like a year. Is DMOZ having a hard time recruiting these days?

    Are like there any DMOZ editors reading this post? Please help me out. The sites are in the signature. I mean there are great quality sites. What I'm I missing here?

    Please send me a Private Message (PM) if you are an editor for DMOZ, I would be so thankful. :rolleyes:
     
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  2. mixing

    mixing Well-Known Member

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    DMOZ is very hard to get listed in. Don't bother trying to submit multiple times cause you will just weaken your chances of being approved. They get thousands of sites submitted per day so depending on the category it could take months to actually get listed.

    I would submit it - and sit back and wait..keep an eye out.
     
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  3. Claudek

    Claudek Well-Known Member

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    #3
    You should advise your clients that getting a listing in DMOZ is not a guarantee due to the volunterr nature of its operation and things have progressed quite a lot nowadays. Getting a listing there is no longer a requirement and they'd be better off getting a listing in Yahoo Directory (does come in handy when local searches are done, a business listing would pop into the first page SERPs for a relevant search).

    I have to assume that some who insist on getting a DMOZ listing have read some old SEO articles which say it is a must to get an entry in there for a site.

    Asking for a DMOZ editor would be useless if they do not edit the section where the business listing needs to be in. I used to be an editor years ago and my area had nothing to do with business but for an education area for a particular country.
     
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    snooks Well-Known Member

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    Exactly the same as a man :)

    Gheez.....women always scream for equal rights, we now have "Chairperson", "Police Officer", "Door Person" all because of a fear of upsetting the fairer sex. But when they want something....yup, out comes the "poor little girl" routine.

    Simply suggest the site and then move on to something else :)
     
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  5. peppy

    peppy Active Member

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    DMOZ is too greedy to get new recruits, the inside runs like a mafia (editors getting kicked out for no reasons, bribing, self-favoring metas putting all their own sites in the lucrative industry categories) and the directory is full of link rot and falling apart because of keeping outsiders out.

    Think of it this way, if the military doesn't have enough manpower and there are PLENTY of recruits out there trying to get in, they are going to take them. So when DMOZ doesn't have enough manpower to run the directory and there are tons of recruits not being allowed in, then you know something fishy is happening.

    DMOZ is only valuable because the Google directory is just a clone of DMOZ and the only way into the Google directory is getting into DMOZ. What REALLY matters is the Google directory. It's obvious because you are trying to get better Google search results, the two are tied together...

    The minute Google decides to finally drop DMOZ after being many years overdue and offer alternatives to getting into the Google directory, I guarantee that you will witness a large surge in newly accepted editors.

    I don't get this, DMOZ doesn't want to do a good job, and it's full of low quality results and they don't want to put in hard work, then Google shouldn't be using them. That's the way things work in the real world, you fire your unproductive lazy workers.
     
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    jimnoble Well-Known Member

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    Dating is a really spammy area and gets a huge number of unlistable suggestions. In consequence, few volunteer editors find it any fun to work there. Long processing delays shouldn't be surprising.

    I don't think that's a problem: We currently have around 800 websites listed within Dating and the surfer is already spoiled for choice.

    Please avoid the temptation to suggest your websites to multiple Topical categories. We might mistake that for spamming and treat the sites accordingly.

    Repetitive suggestions to the same category can also be counter-productive (from your point of view, not ours).
     
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  7. trustnobodynever

    trustnobodynever Peon

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    #7
    spam is everywhere , same with MLM products , or affiliate sites for example for amazon products ... Do you think here can be a limit of sites witch can be added on certain categories ? from what you said up it's sound for me '' we have already enough sites on this category don't bother with others '' :cool:
     
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    snooks Well-Known Member

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    Spot on.....it appears that there are a multitude of sites in the cat and unless a site had something compelling, very unique and making it stand out from the rest, then i daresay that in this particular cat, there is probably no reason to include it :)

    After all, we do not publish every site........
     
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    magda Notable Member

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    #9
    to answer the original poster's question - I'm surprised the people running your really cool SEO start-up didn't know that people wait YEARS for a dmoz listing - if it ever happens. Submit once, cross your fingers, pray a bit and forget it. Like Claudek says, buy them a Yahoo Directory listing instead
     
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  10. trustnobodynever

    trustnobodynever Peon

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    of course you guys aren't publish every site ... you guys publish sites witch are going to be expired after a year , or sites witch are just pages with amazon affiliate banners from different categories , sites witch are redirecting under other sites ... and so on .... I`ve said about those sites loads ago and guess what I`m getting '' link rot from Jim '' funny it's when he try to explain what means link rot none of the things can apply :D After all sites listed on dmoz must be unique right ? how's about one of the listings witch is JUST one html page with 3 links pointing for other domains and 1 picture with watermark for another domain :) . That's examples of sites found by me .... and only one of the links was reported on resource zone all others I didn't reported because you guys will never care if links are deleted from the directory when they are reported , none it's bothering to investigate what happened and how was possible about such sites to be listed here. THAT means quality for some of editors :rolleyes: , ah one more example one of the categories with few sites listed , from all of them only two sites using some custom scripts ALL others using one free script witch is used by known service provider for building links funny thing it's everyone know the script it's vulnerable at mysql attacks
     
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    #11
    I hope that request for a DMOZ editor did not equate to asking them for favours. Sites offering such things and editors receiving them can be banned permanently. You wouldn't want to say that to your boss.

    Sites can take from a few days to a few years for a review to possibly list the site. We are not a listing service, we accept suggestions and that's all they are. We do not undertake to review them in good time. Sorry if your boss has promised something else or expects something else from you, but that's the reality. Submit and forget and as Jim has already said that category is not popular with editors, who work in their spare time with no financial reward building categories that they have an interest in. Obviously not many of us needs on line dating.;)
     
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    alsatech Peon

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    Then who does it?

    Somebody "listed" suggestions in directory, if you never listed them, then how they got in there?

    :p
     
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    Agent000 Prominent Member

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    Agreed. That says volumes about the quality of this SEO firm if they do not know about DMOZ and how it wirks!
     
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    Let me tell you: Accusing someone in such a way is horrible.
    I always think that it would be better if you spend your time fixing the directory instead of writing in forums like this. But now, I guess it would be even better just going out. :)
     
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    Why does being a girl make a difference? I think that you're playing with the feelings of those lonely editors who crave love from a pretty girl like you. :) I'm sorry to tell you, but they're not allowed to have contact with girls while in pursuit of the betterment of the Internets.
     
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    DMOZ is the best directory and it is maintaining its standard a lot
     
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    That's true if DMOZ standard is: listing old out-dated sites, spam sites, one-page sites, FrontPage generated sites, et cetera.
     
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    That was a paid service announcement by the DMOZ editors. :)

    Give them some credit. They do have some good websites there but not that many. Also, it seems like they add 1 or 2 new sites per month in some categories, so I'm not sure why it takes one month to add 1 or 2 sites. It's a pretty slow approval rate even for a volunteer job/hobby. No wonder people are waiting for years to get added.
     
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    I completely feel you here! My partner and I have been trying for a while for a few of our sites. If you come up with and secrets please share lol Good luck1 I hope you can get listed.
     
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    wptheme Well-Known Member

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    I am sure the editors have their own editors. Many are not aware of but they are really doing their job for free and out of passion. Its just unfortunate for certain categories, eventhough there are more than enough editors but they can't really inspect the sites right away. It may take month or years before arriving to your site. Until down just suggest, sit tight and continue doing other works that will help your site's ranks rathre than checking each day if your site is listed or not.
    Goodluck
     
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