What do you think?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by RadioBounce, Jan 1, 2011.

  1. #1
    I'm not sure if this has been posted before, if it has, I apologise.

    Just tell me what you think of this video after watching it all.

    [video=youtube;VFhtt85Gok0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFhtt85Gok0[/video]


    Thank you. :)
     
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  2. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #2
    What do I think?

    I think you have to be an idiot to watch propaganda videos you find on youtube and post them on a forum as if they are insightful.

    I though the end was particularly offensive. Muslims will get out of the USA when the USA gets out of Afghanistan? What a load of cr*p. As a Muslim, I have not the first inclination to leave the United States whether or not the US gets out of Afghanistan. If the guy who made that video thinks he can get me to leave the USA, or that he speaks for me, he's got his head so far up his *ss he can see his tonsils.

    Only a moron would think Muslims in the US are going to have empathy with a bunch of dumbsh*t goat herders living in the 8th century who think it's ok to torture and maim women in their own country, and kill innocent civilians in my country, just because said dumbsh*ts claim to be Muslim.
     
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  3. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #3
    I think that the girl and her supports are no different than the muppets who blind follow the media, this is the kind of mentality these people have.

    Was it Muslims who were responsible for:

    World War 1
    World War 2
    Killing of Aboriginals
    Killing of Native Americans
    Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
    Vietnam War
    Iraq Invasion
    Afghanistan Invasion
    Somalia invasion
    Exporting slaves from Africa to America and other places (not even mentioning what evil has been done to obtain those slaves inside the continent)
    Colonizing many countries all over the world
    Invasion of Palestine, killing its people, demolishing their homes and mass importing people to that region
    And much much more.

    And you complain of angry people throwing stones at tanks? You make me sick


    SP
     
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  4. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #4
    Huh. Who complained about that? Angry people and tanks?!

    You do realize you're "sick" about something nobody said in this thread and Obamanation has never said in this forum, right?

    Just checking to see if there's still any connection with reality.
     
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    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #5
    What do I think of this video ?

    Decent quality propaganda . Minimization of events and amping up others is a pretty clear sign .

    Who are the real terrorist the US or Al-Queda ? 3000 vs 15000 . That's like saying "I sneaked behind a boxer and cut his ear off , but then he broke my jaw , my nose , my arms and my legs - so he must be a the aggressor"
     
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  6. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    A fitting analogy. The girl asks a question about 9-11 and the guy goes into the number of people killed by US bombs in Afghanistan and I think to myself, what kind of stupid audience would believe Afghanistan happened prior to 9-11? Does the maker of the video really think that there should have been no response to 9-11? As far as I'm concerned, you can add any innocent deaths in Afghanistan to Osama's body count, because without 9-11, they would still be alive (assuming the Taliban didn't kill them for some other reason).
     
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  7. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #7
    I can say things before the haters arrive, there's nothing wrong in that.

    I'm not concerned about what Obamanation has to say the fake Muslim.

    I think you got irritated by the facts presented, now your just whining like a cheerleader.

    here is something else for you:

    [video=youtube;nqSNHPTbuDI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqSNHPTbuDI[/video]

    :D:D:D

    SP
     
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  8. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #8
    I'm a certified technical architect and one of my best friends is a structural engineer , we talked about the collapse and the result is quite simple . The tower structure was crushed by weight because steel becomes shit at ~680 C (normal fire is at ~ 600) , the symmetry that they speak of isn't there , when the collapse begun the south tower's base simple disintegrated since the joints could not hold the weight .

    But it's nice to see a dumb blonde in a hijab trying to convince us that Bush did it .
     
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  9. giorgioarmani

    giorgioarmani Well-Known Member

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    #9
    Nice attempt at swinging opinion one way or the other...

    Nevertheless its merely an oversimplification of everything....
     
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  10. robjones

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    #10
    NP. Objecting to a case that nobody is making is known as a "straw man argument".

    Common logical fallacy employed by those that can't effectively counter what's actually being said. Feel free to look it up. :)
     
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  11. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #11
    It sounds like you are implying public opinion is *for* the terrorism done around the world by USA and co.

    Think Again:

    - "63 percent of the public now opposed to U.S. involvement in Afghanistan, according to a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey."
    - Guinness World Records currently lists the Feb. 15, 2003, Iraq War protest in Rome as the largest antiwar rally in history"

    At first people blindly supported their governments, now they are slowly waking up.

    The imperialists are very unpopular around the world, there economy is dying and perhaps soon we will see their defeat.

    --

    :)

    SP
     
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  12. ApocalypseXL

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    #12
    Let's see if i can make him more paranoid ;)

    Yo , SP have a look :

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #13
    Yah fake, just like all the other fake Muslims in Israel, UK, USA, and Iran. Another goat herder who thinks he speaks for all of Islam.

    I was watching Mike Baker, an ex CIA guy ("terrorist" by your definition), on red eye last night. He was saying we ought to get out of Afghanistan and quit wasting money on corrupt idiots. American terrorists against terrorism? You obviously have a pretty gross misunderstanding of what those poll numbers mean.

    I thought there were some interesting artifacts in those numbers though. For instance, Tea Partiers and Republicans were of exactly the same opinion, making the Tea Party neither to the right or to the left of Republicans. Democrats, however, found themselves to the right of self proclaimed Liberals, something we always knew but rarely talk about. Another interesting coincidental statistic was the association of income level with support for the war. The higher the income, the more likely Americans were to support the war. By associating those two statistics, one could infer that the higher your income, the more likely you are to be a conservative.



    Hopefully to be replaced by a kinder gentler regime like the Saudi's or the Taliban, no? Love the open cheer leading. Honesty is always refreshing.
     
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    Finally, a quote from you I do 100% believe. What a great new year! :)
     
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    #15

    Think again, East and West coasts are Blue - rural heartland is Red.
    ........


    but were still in the minority.
    .......


    Still, a majority of higher income people oppose the war....Only 54% against 46% for - an odd way to spin the majority.

    At any rate just how someone could derive a connection between income and political leaning from the above statistics and conclude higher income leans conservative when the exact opposite is the obvious correct conclusion leaves one a little baffled.
     
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  16. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #16
    Girls, you shouldn't separate like that. Break from the herd and you might get consumed by a predator.

    @Breeze: Why don't you explain how it is you would get the opposite impression from those stats? I'm all ears. The tie between income level and probability of political leaning is fairly well documented.

    @Bushranger: Another quote you'll love ties income level to education level. More education = more income. From this we can infer that conservatives are better educated as well :D. Happy new year.
     
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    #17

    What do you think?

    The thread is custom tailored for you O...nation - what do you think, not what is correct.
     
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    Yeah, thought you had to blow it soon. :) Paris Hilton is very smart, as is a lot of the people who live off their parents money.

    I think it's more a case of 'if you have something to lose then you're worried you may lose it'. Where poor people don't give a shit because there's nothing to lose no matter what stance they take. It can only get better for them.

    Not long ago, when you had nothing, it took 50 grand to get you back on top, house & car. Now from the bottom you need at least 300 grand to get back to living standards. (house & car). It's much harder getting back on top being broke and the gap is only increasing. That has led to anarchism flourishing & will continue to do so until the gap between rich & poor gets closer again.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #19
    This is what you consider an explanation of how you arrive at an illogical conclusion by reviewing those statistics? Why am I not surprised.

    Was any of this a response to my education level statistic quote? If it was, I missed your point. I actually agree with your second paragraph. Its a glorious time to be a Liberal in America. If they can just create enough poor people, they will have political dominance so long as they can keep them poor. Democrats: The party of a few mega wealthy and a lot of extremely poor, with very few in between.
     
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    No, I don't believe that statistic is true. There's plenty of clever people on both sides, probably moreso the poorer because put simply, there's more of them. It was reinforcing your first quote of the rich people being more conservatives because, IMO, they have further to fall.
     
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