What do you think of 9/11?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by hallelujah7, Sep 9, 2006.

  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #81
    After watching the first part of that ABC miniseries, it looks like the fault of the Clinton administration.
     
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  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #82
    He did. But for some, it never would have been fast enough. For some, they pretend it's a real issue that had it been immediate, they would have a different opinion today. I say it's a non-issue that serves as nothing more than something for those who are going to complain about anything, to complain about.
     
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  3. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #83
    I am quoting myself here and going to add something before some wise man tells me the plane was going 500 miles per hour or summats like that.

    The point I am making here is that there were many many cameras on the Pentagon and all we get to see is this dodgy Sony Betamax version.

    Dispel the crazy theorys by showing us the plane hitting the Pentagon goddamit, that would shut a load of these wakco stupid conspiracy theorists up for sure.

    The gas station and hotel tapes would be a good start.
     
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  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #84
    Well of course they did. People like Berger, Albright, Clinton, Tenant... They had a hell of a lot to do with it. They allowed it to happen, TWICE. Even though both times (prior to the attacks) they had the opportunity to capture those responsible, before they did it.
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #85
    And how well does it take photos of something going 500 mph? More fact, less opinion.

    What math?

    So you are upset that someone didn't have the foresight to magically know the Pentagon was going to be hit, rush out, setup high speed video cameras, get the perfect shots? I'm simply amazed that there truly are people *this* stupid. Just when you think someone couldn't get any stupider, AGS shows up.

    A day to remember.
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #86
    You mean people like you?
     
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  7. Edz

    Edz Peon

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    #87
    Not really a non-issue, it indicates character.
    In this case the sort of character not desirable for a president of the United States.

    The nation was under attack and he sat there entertaining todlers.
    What would he do if he heard his wife has been gunned down?

    Still sit there entertaining the little kids?
    What the heck is so important to be present at that classroom when a serious issue is at hand?

    It showed his character, weak and fully dependant.
    Non- issue?
     
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  8. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #88
    You carry on mate, but why do they not release the tapes from the hotel or the petrol station??

    What do they have to hide??

    Call me thick, stupid or whatever I am not bothered, I concentrate on the questions that need answers, a lot of the official version sounds like a load of cobblers to me.
     
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  9. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #89
    Insulting people is a sure sign that one knows they are losing a debate and really have no facts.

    Not much we can do with GTech, AGS.

    No matter what side of the political spectrum one is on, the fact is, if we don't stop the division and get united and force out politicians to perform based on common sense and not what the corps want, "we're all gonna die"! :eek:
     
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  10. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #90

    Mia:

    On whom do you "blame" December 7, 1941, the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor?

    Blaming it on Clinton is rediculous. There are many in the government who state that because Clinton was focused on terrrorists Bush decided to do the opposite and not focus on them. The day before 9/11/01 Rumsfield gave a speech making a claim that our biggest problem and darkest enemy was our own military doing things in old ways.

    Nether administration has captured or knocked out Bin Laden. Sunday in the Washington Post it referenced that the people responsable for tracking Bin Laden in Pakistan haven't had a single clue to Bin Laden's whereabouts in a year.
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #91
    "I want you to listen carefully to me. I did not have sexual relations with that women, Monica Lewenksy."

    That showed so much more character.

    They were grade schoolers.


    Actually it showed great restraint and great character. What was he supposed to do? Panic? Some how I think being calm, cool and collected was much more desirable than going completely crazy.
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #92
    Source that such exists? Did you view the photos in the link I provided?

    Do you question those who question the official version? I've not seen any yet, but just curious. And when those questions are answered, do you acknowledge, or do you just keep repeating them like noppid does?
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #93
    Complacency. The same complacency that the Clinton administration had. 92% of the American public did not want to enter WWII. It is that complacency that drove Japan to attack a nation that had no interest in defending itself or it's allies.

    Clinton was not focused on terrorists. Clinton was focused on polls, public opinion, and his legacy. He was more worried about what people would think about him, than doing what was right.

    We see the complete opposite of Bush. He does not care what polls indicated, or what public out cry might be. He appears to make his decisions based on what is right, not what is popular.


    I'm pretty sure Bin Laden has been dead for about 4 or 5 years now. We've not heard or seen from him since Afghanistan was bombed.
     
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  14. Edz

    Edz Peon

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    #94
    That is something of equal caliber right?
    Not worth mentioning but of course you find it a strong argument :rolleyes:

    Another strong and relevant argument :rolleyes: For i care they where University students.



    Why do you even ask me if he should panic?
    Problems reading my post?
    I did mention (Not freaking out of course) did i?

    He should have simply excused himself calmly and stated he has something important to attend to.
     
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  15. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #95
    hehe, repeating things is an interesting observation.

    Let's get a list of the terms our commander in chief keeps repeating to instill fear in americans. Now that would be fun.

    If, he can do it, and I'm not acknowledging your acusation on my part, can't I?

    I mean look at his rhetoric and how you repeat it. Such good training! :rolleyes:
     
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  16. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #96
    September 11 in History
    Editor's Comments
    © http://www.September11News.com

    Our research on September 11 in history uncovered many anomalies and perhaps a significant prophetic sign.

    The most startling discovery was a book written in 1981, 20 years prior to the 2001 attacks, called "The
    Birth of Christ Recalculated". The author, Dr. Ernest L. Martin, claims to have calculated the exact date of Jesus
    Christ's birth based on the celestial charts for that era. The date of Christ's birth, based on the famous Star of
    Bethlehem, is calculated to be September 11, 3 B.C.. Dr. Martin's findings have been accepted by many
    scholars, theologians, historians, and astronomers. We also note that Jesus Christ has 11 letters. The crosses
    found standing in the ruins of the WTC, and the dominance of the number 11 in the 9-11 events,
    make this combination even more mysterious.

    There is another significant religious event occurring about 2000 years later on September 11, 1999.
    According to Hebrew scriptures September 11, 1999 was the 6,000th anniversary of Adam's creation, and
    year 1 on the Hebrew calendar.

    Most other historic events between those 2,002 years (3 B.C. -1999 A.D.) involve either war or violence.

    Pentagon Construction
    North Parking Lot
    Pentagon Construction
    5th Floor Roof Both the World Trade Center and the
    Pentagon have September 11th in
    their history. On September 11, 1609
    the explorer Henry Hudson sailed into
    New York harbor and discovers
    Manhattan Island and the Hudson River.


    On September 11, 1941 construction
    officially begins at the Pentagon.

    Pentagon Construction
    5th Floor Roof
    Pentagon Construction
    Center Courtyard
    Other events that appear to have uncanny similar timing in relation to the 9-11-2001 attacks were the 1972
    Olympics, and President Bush's 1990 Gulf War Speech.

    The world was introduced to terrorism at the 1972 Munich Olympic Games. These games ended on September
    11, 1972. There were 121 participating countries (11X11=121), and 11 Israeli athletes were killed. Exactly 29
    years (2+9=11) after this terrorist horror ended, another more despicable horror occurred - the September 11,
    2001 terrorist attacks.

    On September 11, 1990 President George Bush (Sr.) made a dramatic speech to Congress, outlining the US
    position in the Kuwait crisis, and the preliminary steps the US was taking towards the Gulf War. Exactly
    11 years later, on September 11, 2001, terrorists attacked America.

    There is another oddity we noted in our research. On September 11, 1772, about 300 Indians and 50 British
    soldiers began the siege of Fort Henry. This would be the last battle of the American Revolution. Researchers
    and historians of this siege are puzzled by the meaning of a comment in a document describing these events.
    It was recorded in a letter written by Lydia Cruger (11 letters), and it seems a fitting comment to this
    section. She wrote, "The siege commenced about sun an hour high, Monday, 11th, at all events, the 11th."

    September 11th plays a key role throughout early American history including a failed peace conference with
    the British on September 11, 1776, and the first day the American flag was used in battle at the
    Battle of Brandywine on September 11, 1777.

    Following are the significant events of September 11 throughout history
     
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  17. AGS

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    #97
    Very true noppid.

    The problem with some people is that they cannot answer or debate properly. I myself do not believe a lot of the conspiracy theorys (the no planes theory that is being banded about is ridiculous, as is the "pods under the WTC planes", utter crap) but when I see something that needs an answer I grab a hold of it.

    The 3 that really need a look at are:

    The Pentagon tapes (why have they not been released?)
    WTC7
    and
    Bush at the school

    There are many other questions that need answering but I pick these 3 as they are highly suspicious, especially the Pentagon.

    GTech has resorted to just posting junk so no longer can offer an answer, I bet he didn't even read the OPERATION NORTHWOODS link I posted.

    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf

    It is declassified and is available for anyone to read.

    I am as upset about what happened on that day as anyone else is but I choose to question anomalies (sic) about the official version. That don't make me dumb, crazy or stupid, it means that I do not believe certain aspects of that day 5 years ago.
     
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  18. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #98
    It simply shows why people like you don't take national security seriously. It shows why dems (aka liberals, since there are so few real democrats left) cannot win elections. They think it's a game, when it fact, the threat is real. I for one, welcome these disclosures from people like you, noppid. It makes it so easy to point out why people should not be voting for democrats when elections come around.
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #99
    Of course it is. That is the root cause of the end result we saw 5 years ago. Instead of capturing Bin Laden when he had the chance, he chose to let him go for fear the public outcry would cause more problems for his already failed administration and impending impeachment.

    When that failed, he decided instead to bomb a pharmaceutical plant to take attention off the Monica scandal. Let's not forget that Madam Not All Too Bright at the time then tipped off Pakistan to that bombing, helping Bin Laden get away, yet again.

    Let us also not forget that that bombing was a pivotal moment in the generation of hatred towards America. Those in the mid east at that time called Clinton "Satan". All he did was further enrage a bunch of angry nut cases. In turn he helped usher in new hatred as a result.

    My point here is that you continually misstate the facts and resort to making things up. You would now have me believe that Bush was reading to toddlers when he was not?

    What kind of reaction did you expect then?

    He did.
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #100
    That's mighty generous of you! Here's a question that needs answering. What happened to the people on board flight 77?
     
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