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What do you think about what this directory is doing...

Discussion in 'Directories' started by choice, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. #1
    Hi guys not been around here for a very long time.
    SEMrush
    Anyway was submitting sites to a few directories when i came across this one

    http://www.seowebdirectory.co.uk/submit.php

    what do you think about what they are doing and are they right or wrong in doing it.
     
    choice, Jul 25, 2013 IP
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  2. sunilmamo

    sunilmamo Active Member

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    They are taking quite an extreme measure, if you ask me.
     
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  3. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    I think this, particularly sort of defeats the purpose of a directory:

    "We will also be adding no-follow tag to all our listings."

    So what they are saying is, we are NO LONGER a Directory.
     
    Mia, Jul 26, 2013 IP
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #4

    I see many business directory niches that are more focused on driving leads than trying to help with seo, where I think making links no follow is not an issue as long as they are actually driving leads though forms or whatever. But for this directory, which is called "SEO" directory, to no-follow links does not make much sense.
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    NO-FOLLOW makes absolutely NO sense in any directory or search based collection of links. Actually it pretty much makes NO SENSE at all period. NO-FOLLOW is pretty much counter to what the purpose behind the internet itself it. There's really no logical or beneficial reason to use the NO-FOLLOW tag; ever.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #6

    In the big picture I agree with you. It is a useless tag.

    What I was trying to say was that I have seen it used in directories that are, in fact, lead generating websites so the implication that people are getting nothing from being in those directories because they are no-follow is not correct. In spite of their no-follow tags, those lead generating directories still manage to offer value for the businesses listed in them in the form of actual leads.

    That being said, I would not do it on any website I own.
     
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  7. suwandichen13

    suwandichen13 Active Member

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    actually that would bad if your website only get all dofollow that makes google label you as suspicious website, you also need seed your website with nofollow so that make your link building more natural.
    even they make nofollow tag , links still links dude even it nofollow.

    reference : mattcutts.com/blogs
     
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  8. Nima

    Nima Well-Known Member

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    #8
    Why would you link to a website and put a nofollow tag in front of it? If you don't trust the website, don't link to them to being with.

    The directory fees are for reviewing and populating the listing information, and paying for the marketing costs of the directory itself. They're not a pay for link fee.
     
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    suwandichen13 Active Member

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    #9
    even you tag link with nofollow, it's not like you don't trust them, coz we already review it before.
    if i correctly recall
    an illustration :
    do-follow = passing 2 point links.
    no-follow = passing 1 point link.

    no need to scare with nofollow .better build your link with 50% (dofollow) + 50%(nofollow) << that make your website look cool dude.
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    No Follow was created to combat the spammers. The unexpected side effect however was PageRank sculpting.

    Source: people who've been doing this longer that Matt Cutts and Google...
     
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    so what we need to do about it? seed our website with all dofollow?
    maybe just waiting people link to us.

    About PR sculpting

     
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  12. Nima

    Nima Well-Known Member

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    #12

    Not true. If you are 'Selling' a link as advertising Google wants you to put nofollow on it. If you are not selling a link then you shouldn't.

    This pisses me off on a whole different level too. Why should we be doing Google's job for them anyways? Why don't they instead come up with a way to rank websites really based on content...
     
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    dvduval Notable Member

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    #13
    Google wants directories to follow Google's business model, but there are many business ideas that can be profitable that don't necessarily follow Google's guidelines (and other's that do). Just don't be confused and act as if Google is the only authority of the internet. The internet was created so documents could be linked together in a very free and open manner, and is still that way today. A directory is a collection of links, and the main goal if profit is of interest is to create something that others would value in some way.

    Local businesses
    Adult Sites
    Video Galleries
    High PR directory to transfer google pagerank
    Facebook pages
    a niche site
    a game directory
    product reviews or listings
    Image directory

    The list is endless, but it is NOT all about pleasing Google.
     
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    Nima Well-Known Member

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    You know, Im glad this resistance towards google being the god is growing. They are increasingly using their position to push competition out and force their agenda to everyone which is not healthy for internet as a whole.

    add to that the fact that they give away our private information to the government
     
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    dvduval Notable Member

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    It's hard for me to call myself a google fan anymore. They do some things very well for sure, but my wish is for increased competition so google cannot dominate everything. It just isn't healthy for the internet as a whole.
     
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    dont you think that google put a collar on our neck and treat us like they pet? lol.
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    If googles business model includes displaying irrelevant results, MFA sites, dead links and virus/hacked web sites, then I guess I'm gonna have to pass.
     
    Mia, Jul 29, 2013 IP
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    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #18
    Unless I am missing something, how is doing what they propose in line with google's webmaster guidelines? By accepting payment, they're reviewing the site for inclusion in the directory. The directory owner is not accepting money for advertising, although really that's a secondary benefit. I think not only is adding nofollow to these links a bit excessive, they've completely missed the point of how you should be using nofollow.

    IMHO what this really suggests is their past history of reviewing and endorsing low quality sites simply because they received a payment. In other words, there was a lack of editorial oversight but if they were managing the directory properly from the get go I doubt they would consider adding nofollow to their links.

    That would be like writing an article and linking out to useful websites and adding nofollow to these external links. It would make absolutely no sense!
     
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    I think this is the correct way to go about it.
     
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    Directory links are considered unnatural links and they should be nofollow. All directories have a submission page. Whether it's paid or free link, it's been clearly posted many times that if you request your link to be listed on someones sites it's considered unnatural. In addition google released a new post today on their webmaster blog, here is the link http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2013/08/manual-actions-viewer.html, if you had a manual penalty you should be able to sample links that affect your site. I've checked two of our sites today and the links are from directories.
     
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