What do you think about the relegion Islam(specialy non-muslims)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Aqeel Qureshi, Aug 15, 2009.

  1. wildogre

    wildogre Well-Known Member

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    #241
    I love Islam its a whole way of living.
     
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  2. Dodara

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    This will be my last response to you regarding this issue, as we can talk endlessly about it and even make books.


    I will make it in general points:

    1. I do not care what a person or a parliament say's in a country or what a country or even the whole word say what is Islamic Law's so called Sharia Laws is.

    Laws are taken from Quran and Hadaith not from what a parliament claimed if it had claimed so.

    Islam have given the choice for both genders to marry at there well and anyone claim that Sharia Law is different from that then his claim is invalid and fake and can not in anyway considered as a something to link to Islam.

    2. Sharia Laws are taken from Quran and Hadaith and if does not fit the laws of your country or the laws you have been used then this does not mean your criteria and the laws you believe in is right, just because you feel so or believe so.

    3. I asked you to focus in one subject in many threads, yet you do not do so and i can not reply sufficiently to many issues in one post so my reply will be general.

    Check the rape rate, murder rate, theft rate, etc in US country and western countries and compare it to Islamic countries and check the causes of extreme difference between the both sides, then you might understand what Islamic laws have succeed to solve and your countries could not solve.
     
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  3. northpointaiki

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    Dodara, I tried focus. That didn't get me very far, across many threads.

    I don't think the following is inordinately complex, or requiring its own thread. Please respond directly, or not at all - since you've avoided it for several posts, now. You accuse me of drawing in un-Islamic events, and ascribing them to Islamic practice. I've asked you several times:

    Are you cool with stoning "adulterers?" Yes, or no, please.

    (ignoring, for the moment, how such "adulterers" are proved to be "adulterers").

    Let's stay with this, for now, as the other myriad of things seems to have tired us both.
     
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  4. Dodara

    Dodara Active Member

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    I did not try to avoid answering you at anytime and i always was clear and direct, but 3 times in 3 posts i always asked you to focus in one subject, so i can give a clear details about any issue being discussed from my point of view as a Muslim which i believe is based on Islamic teaching and see your point of view.

    Yes, i agree with stoning law, but the law itself has branches and it must be discussed openly and explained so it would be fully understood, how when and to whom its applied.

    If the question is only yes i agree or i do not agree, then my answer is yes i agree and i wont give any more details unless you request more details, then i will provide details and explain it with pleasure.
     
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  5. Gooseman

    Gooseman Peon

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    It is starting to appear to me that many muslims are simply unable to condemn any child marriage because if they do then they too must condemn their prophet. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.:rolleyes:
    That said... I have "met" (web) muslims who strongly condemn such marriages. Don't know how the reconcile their condemnation with the actions of their prophet though:eek:
     
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  6. Traditione

    Traditione Well-Known Member

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    Islam is the last of the largest religious body where the population is at real contention with their identity.

    Are they as radical, backwards, insane as the West paints them to be?

    ...Yes.

    The true followers of Islam, the ones who have post 3rd-grade education and realize that the stoning of adulterers is a symbol regardless of how "literal" the text that idea comes from claims to be.

    The literal follower of anything is a blatant fool and only plays into the political structure.

    In that sense, Islam needs a modern schism or break; anything to alter the monolithic structure of that faith.

    Their story is just a little different than that of Christians or Jews, but like Christianity and Judaism, the mainstream interpretation of that story is based mainly on fear and the preying of the innocent and ignorant.

    To that, Muslims are those we must most directly soften.

    Islam is the last religion with the most individuals who want to spread it's beliefs and wipe out the infidel.

    That isn't true Islam.
    That's Catholicism 1100AD-Kennedy's Presidency

    It's up to their youth to reject their fathers' dogmas as the West is progressing towards.
     
    Traditione, Sep 15, 2009 IP