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What do you think about Seoforum?

Discussion in 'Websites' started by rudexpunx, Dec 9, 2022.

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    Hey, long time since my last visit here.

    Been running Seoforum for few years now, curious what you think about it.

    Also have a quiestion for you, webmasters; We're fighting spam ever since the forum got more popular. Have multiple rules in place, specially for new users, no links, RCv3 and so on. Yet, we don't really check the content itself, so it's still possible to post spammy content, even though without links. Thought it wouldn't attract people when restricted links, but not much has changed.

    Any ideas are welcome.

    Thanks!
     
    rudexpunx, Dec 9, 2022 IP
  2. deathshadow

    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    Inaccessible garbage. Typical of what happens when people ignorant of actual design run their mouths about trying to scam the system with SEO bullshit that has nothing to do with actual SEO.

    Inacessible fixed metric (px) fonts and layout, broken layout for non-standard font size users, utterly banjaxed landings and keyboard navigation, and an HTML that tells users with accessibility needs to go F*** themselves.

    Much less it's one of these garbage "forums" that's impossible to navigate threads because it's trying WAY too hard to be like Twitter.

    And if you pop the bonnet to look at the code, you have to ask what type of alleged SEO experts would deploy a forums that would vomit up garbage markup like this:

    
<body>
    <div id="seoforum">
        <flash message="" level=""></flash>

        	<nav class="navbar navbar-light seoforum-navbar navbar-expand-lg">
    <div class="container">
        
        <a class="navbar-brand" title="SEO Forum Home" href="https://seoforum.com">
            <img alt="SEO Forum - Place to talk SEO" src="/img/logo_sf.svg" height="30">
        </a>
        <button class="navbar-toggler" type="button" data-toggle="collapse" data-target="#seoforumNavbarToggle" aria-controls="seoforumNavbarToggle" aria-expanded="false" aria-label="Toggle navigation">
            <span class="navbar-toggler-icon"></span>
        </button>

        <div class="collapse navbar-collapse" id="seoforumNavbarToggle">
            <ul class="navbar-nav justify-content-end ml-auto">
                <li class="nav-item dropdown mr-2">
                    
                    <li class="nav-item mr-2"><a class="nav-link" href="https://seoforum.com/base">SEO Base</a></li>

                    <a class="nav-link dropdown-toggle" href="#" id="navbarDropdown" role="button" data-toggle="dropdown" aria-haspopup="true" aria-expanded="false">    
                        Browse
                    </a>

                    <div class="dropdown-menu" aria-labelledby="navbarDropdown">
                        <a class="dropdown-item" href="https://seoforum.com/user/bookmarks">Bookmarks</a>
                        <a class="dropdown-item" href="https://seoforum.com/user/subscriptions">Subscriptions</a>
                        <a class="dropdown-item" href="https://seoforum.com/user/upvoted">Upvoted</a>
                        <a class="dropdown-item" href="https://seoforum.com/user/followed">Followed</a>

                        <div class="dropdown-divider"></div>
                        
                        <a class="dropdown-item" href="https://seoforum.com/categories">Categories</a>
                    </div>
                </li>
          

                <li class="nav-item mr-2">
                    <a href="https://seoforum.com/help" class="nav-link">Help</a>
                </li>

                
                            
                                <li>
                    <a class="btn btn-secondary" href="https://seoforum.com/login" class="">Log In</a>
                </li> 
                <li>
                    <a class="btn btn-primary ml-2" href="https://seoforum.com/register" class="">Sign Up</a>
                </li>
                            </ul>
        </div>

    </div>
</nav>
    Code (markup):
    Doing the job of:

    
<body>
	<header>
		<h1><a href="/">SEO Forum</a></h1>
		<a href="#mainMenu" class="mainMenu_open" hidden></a>
		<nav>
			<a href="#" class="modalClose_outer" hidden></a>
			<ul>
				<li><a href="/base">SEO Base</a></li>
				<li>
					<input type="checkbox" id="toggle_browse" hidden>
					<label for="toggle_browse">Browse</label>
					<ul>
						<li><a href="/user/bookmarks">Bookmarks</a></li>
						<li><a href="/user/subscriptions">Subscriptions</a></li>
						<li><a href="/user/upvoted">Upvoted</a></li>
						<li><a href="/user/followed">Followed</a></li>
						<li class="breakBefore"><a href="/categories">Categories</a></li>
					</ul>
				</li>
				<li><a href="/help">Help</a></ll>
				<li><a href="/login" class="secondary">Log In</a></li>
				<li><a href="/register" class="primary">Sign Up</a></li>
			</ul>
		</nav>
	</header>
    Code (markup):
    Probably the same type of know-nothing SEO black hat dirtbags who abuse H1 for their "hero" or "banner" sections when not a single blasted other thing on the subpage is a subsection of it. Or that repeats the same menu twice in a total "F*** users on screen readers" manner. Or that would use H2 without H1's for them to be a subsection of. Or that would shart idiocy like:

    <div class="post-options-wrapper d-flex justify-content-between align-items-center">
    Code (markup):
    All over their markup in tribute to the bleeding edge of HTML 3 / 1997 coding practices thanks to inane idiotic incompetent rubbish like bootcrap or failwind.

    Consistent with anything SEO focused; as if the people who talk game about it don't know the first damned thing about HTML.
     
    deathshadow, Dec 9, 2022 IP
  3. rudexpunx

    rudexpunx Active Member

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    Thanks Jason! I appreciate the feedback.

    I understand that you prefer standards, ready-made stuff where you don't have to worry about the app at all (SMF or vB? or even phpBB?) while it's being stable and generally nice looking. Just fill the DB details, hit the install button and done. I respect that, but there are people that love to try stuff and experiment as a hobby. There are thousands of inactive forums that doesn't work at all, no matter how clean their markup is.

    Speaking of that... I am sure markup isn't great, but wasn't able to pay more to hire better frontend dev back in the day so I was happy that it at least worked. ffwd 4 or 5 years later and it's still there. No doubt that the room for potential improvement is huge, but I'll keep the Bootstrap no matter how much you hate while not being a big fan of Tailwind.

    HTML aside, I think there are members of the forum that know a thing or two about data mining and technical SEO and a few more with deeper understanding of off-site sh_t.

    One thing you've got wrong is the Twitter inspiration. Not inspired by Twitter at all.
     
    rudexpunx, Dec 10, 2022 IP