What do you think about Muslims and Jihad and Crusades

Even if the 700 club is off its rocker, they still don't kill anyone..
Where is AC when you need him, he loves the guy on the 700 club...

 

What honesty? You claim the God is Islam is the same as the God of Jews and Christians.

That's not honest.

Feining offense at being labeled "false" when your own holy book denounces the Jewish and Christian belief that they are children of God is also highly dishonest.

So I'm not sure what you're talking about.

That's why I respect religions that are honest. You can't tell an honest religion that they're false. But when your religion puts out blatent lies, and lies are what make religions false, you can see that a religion is false.

So as soon as Muslims stop pretending they have the same God as Jews and Christians there will be one less tell that Islam is not true.

 

So what's your proof that it's a lie?

 

Round and round the hampster wheel we go. Read, comprehend, respond.

 

Concrete proof

 

If it weren't in writing I could understand having to repeat myself.

 

What you write only contains your personal "opinions", which is subjective to person. If there were any statement as proofs i'd quote them. In many parts of Quran other holy religions are mentioned, you can easily find a translated version of Quran on the internet.

Anyways, you are free to believe whatever you want. Some religions may not accept Islam as a religion, it's their belief, but that does not mean Islam should reject them too. Maybe you do not know, in many Islamic countries, Jesus' name is given to children(Moses too) as well as Mohammed, because he is considered as a holy person too. But maybe they name their children only because they want to trick some crusaders, conspiracy is always sweet

 

Fact: Jews and Christians believe they are the children of God.
Fact: Jews and Christians believe they are only human
Fact: Being human does not restrict you from being a child of God (it's called "adoption")

Fact: The Quran claimes Jews and Christians are not the children of God because they are only human.

So how do you rectify this problem? Why would the Quran use that argument when being human has nothing to do with being a child of God?

Imagine this dialog if you will:

Jew: I'm a child of God
Muslim: No you're not
Jew: Why?
Muslim: Because you're just a human
Jew: ...

 

According to Islam; every living and non-living thing is created by Allah. You can name it as being his son, or anything else, eventually all people are God's creatures. I don't get the relation with what you claim.

Where exactly in Quran claims Jews and Christians are only human and Muslims are not? That's really ridiculous man, it only show you don't know about Islam, according to Islam; there's no such unequality according to beliefs, believing something does not make you more than just a human, as it's what we all are, you can call it "son of God" and it's fine, God created everyone, call yourself his son, daughter nephew, what's the big deal about this lol.

Quran tells other religions are holy indeed, but no longer valid till Islam came, just like Jewism was valid till Hristianity came, and so that's exactly what Muslims believe. Don't get this wrong, but reason you are telling these is that you really have no knowledge about it, those you say are common mis-beliefs within people who don't really know about it.

 

I was not expecting that type of debate in reply of my thread, You guys are so religious and against Religion. I am not against any religion and still I am Muslim!! can you believe it???

 

I do believe you, that's what i am too.

Not all can accept this though, some people need to find a disapproval and hate to match theirs.

 

This is an excellent book for anyone wanting the truth about the Crusades and islam in general. Written by an expert in the field with no university professor apologetics. I've had it for about two years no and still reference it often.

 

I want to know what do you think about:

1-Muslims [overall all muslims and Islam] most of the men are oppressive to women, the religion as a whole ranks #1 on the crap list followed by the rest of them
2-Jihad [Holy War of Muslims] retards that dont know the meaning of the word, cowards with a yellow streak a mile wide down there back.
3-Crusades [ holy war of Christians]
more retards as tin cans, (fancy dress)? wishing they had WMD's to wipe out the other retards above.

all in all, a retarded bunch of misfits. most still living in a 1,000 year time warp

 

Read. Comprehend. Respond.

Where did I claim that the Quran claims that Muslims are not human? Read my post again. Comprehend my post. Then try responding again.

How can you claim that when your own book tries to discredit core Jewish and Christian doctrine with completely unrelated arguments?

 

one word.
"muslim"

 

Never Try to put your own statement on any religon if you are not able to prove that, Just come with the Holy Verse of Al-Quran and then may be you can say that.

 

I agree. This is good sound advice, Postingpays. Some of the verses I often quote from the quran, with source, are:

I might also add that it is good to provide a credible source like the one above, that also provides multiple translations. This prevents (though some still try) others from using the "translation card" and the "out of context" card.

When you quote the real, actual verses, it's very discouraging to see what the quran is really about. Still, I'm proud to be an infidel

 

GTech, I would start with saying that May Allah guide you towards right path. The Path of Moses (as), Jesus (as) & Muhammad (as).

I am going to quote the same verses as you quoted and will try to tell all the members the real approach of some members which simply nothing but to hit Islam without even understanding it.

You Quote ::

Mean If they repent than open the way for them and leave them to safety.

There was nothing but your failed try again to hit on Islam and Muslims. This verse is simply telling Muslims when some Idol worshippers come to you for protection grant them and tell them the real word of God and grant them to safety. Nothing offensive here ..

Just move and read the Verses that came just before this Verse, as it will explain all to you Crystal Clear. Again False attack on Islam.

This is what Bible and Other religions preach .. So what if Islam preaches it ??

Well I think You must read the so called "Holy Bible" before making statement against this verse, as if you were the good reader of your own Bible then you must not present this Verse as this is also been tought many times by Bible itself, so again a false attempt to attack Islam.

 

the difference here is we do not practise such barbaric acts, unlike you.

 

Mean simply you are againt those "Barbaric" Verses of Bible as well ??

Ohhh!!! nice to know that ..

I don't even care if you ar enot a Christian .. as no christian is following Bible truly ..