What do you think about Muslims and Jihad and Crusades

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by arcguy, Apr 6, 2007.

  1. #1
    HI
    I want to know what do you think about:

    1-Muslims [overall all muslims and Islam]
    2-Jihad [Holy War of Muslims]
    3-Crusades [ holy war of Christians]

    GIve your detailed reply to my questions and tell me also about yourself.
     
    arcguy, Apr 6, 2007 IP
  2. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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    #2
    1: Have some SERIOUS issues to workout in their community.
    2: Sick and also, see above.
    3: Sick, but...
    Most religions have evolved beyond the dark ages.


    Honestly, I think religion does more harm than good. I think religion helps many millions of people to live a better life. But it also helps even more live vicious and evil lives. I think without religion, the world would be a MUCH calmer place to live. Just IMO
     
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  3. sami

    sami Peon

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    #3
    I don't think i can answer your questions briefly, so i'm afraid you will have to
    do some reading.

    http://quranwithdvd.com/UnderstandingIslam.html
    http://www.beconvinced.com/en/main.php

    cheers
     
    sami, Apr 7, 2007 IP
  4. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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  5. sami

    sami Peon

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    I was trying to fix what you have answered, with your funny definistions i'm sure that you know nothing about Muslims and Islam.:rolleyes:

    1. Islam: The last message of God to all mankind. It was sent down upon prophet Muhammad (pbuh), recorded in broad outlines in the Qur'an, and described in detail in the Sunnah. Islam is an Arabic word which means "Submission to God".

    2. Jihad: is an Arabic word that means "striving in the way of God." This striving can take a number of forms, including the daily inner struggle to be a better person

    cheers
     
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  6. ST12

    ST12 Active Member

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    1. Very, Very Untrue. Most religions don't even accept the Quran is a message of God at all, let alone "the last message of God".
    2. I still can't find a muslim that can serve me as an example of a "man". Smart, noble, honest, etc. ...

    All religions are about "Love" except Islam. Islam means "Submission". And as all well know it is understood as submission to whatever Muhammad said.

    Too many things in Islam are in contradiction with the teachings of all other religions.
     
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  7. sami

    sami Peon

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    As i see i think you know nothing about Islam and Muslims:rolleyes: , my advise to you is to go and do some reading about islam on this site http://www.beconvinced.com/en/main.php.
     
    sami, Apr 8, 2007 IP
  8. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    When it was revealed that Muslims are not the children of God then that pretty much settled it for me. When your prophet doesn't even know what it means to be a child of God then he's not much of a prophet. Especially when he's surrounded by a bunch of people who are telling him they're children of God and he apparently can't even be bothered to ask them what they mean by that.

    And what is it with all these religions claiming to have the "last prophet?"

    Jesus comes around and claims to be the last prophet. Then all these "prophets" come around and say "oh I accept Jesus but I'm the last prophet!"

    From "beconvinced.com"

    Let's see, Christian and Jewish God to His people "you are my children."

    Muslim God "I'm insulted if you think you're my child."

    But seriously guys, they're TOTALLY the same God! Literally! Pay no mind to the contradictory views...

    I'm not convinced. I'd have a lot more respect for Muslims if they could just stop lying and be honest that they reject the Judeo-Christian God.

    When Cain saw that God favored Abel more, Cain killed him. When Joseph's brothers saw that their father favored him more they sold him into slavery. If Muslims would just get over themselves and accept that they too could be children of God and be just as favored, there'd be a lot less bloodshed.
     
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  9. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #9
    If those religions have accepted Quran as a message of God, they'd have no validity left since Quran was sent latest.

    Sorry, how you want to see things do not always match the truth.

    And.. I do not see at all any love from non-muslims in this forum, they keep attacking Islam like blood-hungry piranhas in like 2 of every 5 topics. If that's your understanding about "love your neighbour", true, Muslims do not have that sort of love.

    Why would Muslims feel the need to lie about that if they actually rejected them? What do you actually think why they possible are worried about?

    West cause the bloodshed, Muslims get the blame, typical hypocracy.
     
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  10. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    Muslims, and countless other false religions like to lie about who their god is by claiming their god is the same God as the Judeo-Christian God. The only reason I can think of is because it works on some people. I have more respect for religions that can just be honest and admit they reject Christianity rather than try to appear to be at least psudeo-Christian in order to gain some sort of credibility.

    I find it interesting how many religions that reject everything that makes Christ, Christ and yet insist that they believe in Jesus. They also want to claim to believe in the same God as Jews and Christians and yet reject/contradict core teachings of the Judeo-Christian God.

    It's a recruitment tool. If you told a Christian or a Jew you can't be a child of God they'd blow you off. If you told them you believed in a different God, they'd blow you off. If it weren't for the blind hatred and murder, Jews might be enticed by the view of Jesus that Muslims have.

    Muslims like to claim to accept Jesus because it makes it seem like you don't have to sacrifice your core beliefs to be Muslim. But then you find out that the Muslim Jesus denies you are a child of God and didn't die and rise again.

    The Muslim Jesus is not the Christian Jesus. The Muslim god is not the Judeo-Christian God. So then you have to either accept that you've been lied to and reject Islam or deny the Biblical accout of things and accept only what Islam teaches.

    It'd be more respectable if Islam would just admit that it has nothing to do with anything that the Bible has to say about anything.
     
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  11. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    A post requesting thoughts on Muslims and no input from GTech. :confused: :confused:

    Surely they are all terrorists right? :rolleyes:
     
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  12. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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    #12
    Dude, you need a hobby.
    It seems your dailt highlight is when GT speaks to you in a thread...
     
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  13. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #13
    I'm sorry you are only shocked with the honesty of Islam since you were made believe otherwise. Rejecting is easy, makes you lose nothing. And unlike you do, i won't disrespect your religion naming it "false". Because Muslims do accept it as a holy religion whether you want to believe or not. (oh maybe i'm on a mass conversion task too so i pretend to accept it huh)

    I hope to see some people following their own "love your neighbour" advice in the following days instead of making knowledge-free, offensive comments all the time. Or is it your version of taqiyya claiming you have a religion of love and you love your neighbours when you totally behave the opposite - I know it's not, it's only your media-manipulated minds, next decade you'll probably start same topics towards Russia, China etc. calling them enemies of the world and whatever, and maybe your media will tell you Muslims are your friends again as they were when there was a red threat around, and you'll suddenly stop posting this kinda jack. You are truely mis-guided fools of the media, a proof about how media is strong in commanding mass crowds, and that's sad. Not a shocker though, it's not at all new, 500 years ago you were manipulated by the Pope believing crusades were holy, now your media took over the role for pretty much the same.
     
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  14. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    Not really, I'm just surprised that he hasn't commented in this thread. He knows that all Muslims are evil and are all terrorist suicide bombers. All 1.4 billion of them. :rolleyes:
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    AGS, you don't have to habitually lie about everything. Projectionism at it's finest. Where you defend every/all terrorist of their crimes and give their credit away to others, your delusional world thinks everything is in opposites.

    With all the anti-American threads your buds start, and my busy schedule, I don't always comment in every thread. Perhaps you should go back to watching videos of women being abused. It's quite apparent that's the only *action* you'll ever get ;)
     
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    Thank god for that, or your post count would be bigger than blogmeisters at around 19K. :p

    But at least some of the blogmeisters posts are outside of the P&R forum. :D
     
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  17. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Yes, I've noticed that you seem preoccupied with the size of others. As a kid, you must have kept notes on all the other boys in the locker room. I call it peanut syndrome. You didn't get a very big one, eh?
     
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  18. hitmaker

    hitmaker Peon

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  19. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    I am a christian but do u seriously believe that jesus wouldnt be ticked off at people killing in his name? Jesus many times stated that he who shall live by the sword shall die by the sword. He never said u can fight for a self ordained holy king of some castle and kill others in that persons name.

    Also in islam there are moderate muslims as well as extremists muslims. We have that in christianity also its called the 700 club loooooooooooool
     
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  20. RovingCalypso

    RovingCalypso Well-Known Member

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    #20
    Usual answers by most, however almost all evaded the third question. btw, you didn't need to write these questions here for an answer, FOX news would've done a better and a more graphics job.

    So i'll answer the third one.

    3. Crusades - aggresion and terrorism by the Christians under the Pope to capture Jerusalem.
     
    RovingCalypso, Apr 9, 2007 IP