What do I have to do to get listed in ODP?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by Joseph S, Jul 10, 2007.

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  1. #1
    I subscribed a month ago but I did not get any mail. I am still not listed, but I am not rejected neither..
     
    Joseph S, Jul 10, 2007 IP
  2. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    RTFM?

    I assume you submitted a month ago, not subscribed...

    As for not getting any mail, welcome to the club. 4,830,584 other sites didn't get any mail either. They are not a submission service, they do not like you, they will not speak to you. Your site may or may not be waiting in the queue some place, and they will not tell you (officially).

    Do I sound like a jerk? Good... that's the way they like it.

    The official catch phrase is "humans do it better" but the real tag line is "Submit & forget" as there is a good 50/50 chance you'll get rejected and on the off chance you don't get rejected there is a good 90% chance you'll sit in the waiting list up to several years.
     
    Qryztufre, Jul 10, 2007 IP
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    brizzie Peon

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    You know if you get listed coz the site appears in the directory. You may be rejected but you won't be told. You can hazard a guess by comparing the URL submitted against the listing criteria. Most likely you are held in a queue.

    The best way to get a site listed in DMOZ is not to bother with it. Most editors get sites from Google searches and less so from submissions. So if you have a listable site, focus on your other marketing and DMOZ may well follow with a listing. But you won't care then because you will have proved that a DMOZ listing has no effect on your PR. Life's a bitch ain't it.
     
    brizzie, Jul 10, 2007 IP
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    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    Brizzie I want to give ALL your posts green rep but this stupid board won't let me!!!

    Joseph S, you should totally not care whether you're listed.

    The top ten signs that your SEO is a fraud include any SEO that tell you that a DMOZ link is important.

    I'd go as far as saying that a SEO that tells you anything but "DMOZ is useless" is a quack. Some sites have been listed for over 2 years in categories with PR5, and still these sites have PR0. And not bad sites in bad neighborhoods. A PR5 DMOZ link couldn't give budge them from PR0 to PR1.
     
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    brizzie Peon

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    The purpose of webmasters is to maximise their marketing efforts to maximise their personal/corporate income and profit. When you boil it all down the primary motivation of DMOZ and its editors is to level the playing field by eliminating all webmaster marketing in the assessment of sites. The result is a fundamental incompatibility. Therefore, webmasters who attempt to use DMOZ in their marketing efforts are almost certain to be foiled. If not by the site selection criteria then by the description given if listed, which will be entirely bland. The DMOZ concept is aimed firmly and squarely at being an aid to consumers not sellers. For one reason or another, including all kinds of flaws in the execution of the concept together with an explosion of spam, it does not fulfil the consumer requirement as it should but there is nothing else and DMOZ is organisationally incapable of sufficiently radical reform and adaptation to do anything but decline. The point is that webmasters, the suppliers, are totally wasting their time worrying about marketing via DMOZ. The mark of a good website is unique content and loads of it. A site that captures the surfer and keeps their interest. And you can't build one of those with keywords and key phrases alone. Nor will a DMOZ listing make any difference. The only person who can make a difference is the webmaster.
     
    brizzie, Jul 14, 2007 IP
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    #6
    It can take years or you may never even get reviewed.

    They will also never notify you, whether you get declined for inclusion or you get listed.

    Submit once and forget about it.
     
    WunschShrek, Jul 16, 2007 IP
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    i have been trying same. but i think it will take sometimes
     
    marzooq, Jul 16, 2007 IP
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    And since Google just dropped the Directory, AOL might finally decide to kill that pedantic, fossilized nest of pedophilia, parked domains, 404's, hijacked domains, paranoia, arrogance, and pointless exercize that the ODP has become.

    It's been done with the Zeal Directory. It can be done with DMOZ.

    DMOZ might go 404 before your link gets looked at. Don't worry about it! Your site will outlive the Directory.
     
    helleborine, Jul 16, 2007 IP
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    one of my sites was finally approved after a year..so its all good :)
     
    WengChun, Jul 16, 2007 IP
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    #10
    Glad you got your site approved. Very often it really is that editors just don't get round to reviewing a site. You are lucky to get the site approved if you waited a year, because the outage before Christmas cleaned out most of the submitted sites waiting review. At least you will get the benefit of the downstream users of DMOZ data.

    Interesting that at a time when Google drops DMOZ, AOL appoint new staff to DMOZ to give it a new chance. Interesting to see if it works too.
     
    Anonymously, Jul 16, 2007 IP
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    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    [[Fact]] citation needed

    A new chance to what? Nobody will ever use it to find websites. People look for pages, keywords, images, product reviews, instructions for the Nintendo error message 54725, that kind of thing.

    Without Google's blessing DMOZ is nothing. Doesn't matter if AOL throws all its staff into the DMOZ pit.
     
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    Are you talking about Iraq or DMOZ? :rolleyes:
     
    Ivan Bajlo, Jul 17, 2007 IP
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    #13
    "People look for pages, keywords, images, product reviews, instructions for the Nintendo error message 54725, that kind of thing."

    But who knows what the all new, all singing, all dancing DMOZ will do. If you have a crystal ball, give me a tip, I can get in first in the DMOZ forums. Perhaps like the editors we have just got to wait and see. Might be better, might be worse, might fold, might take off, patience.

    edit typo
     
    Anonymously, Jul 17, 2007 IP
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    Here's what I got in my crystal ball.

    Love your choice of IP, "Anonymously." Google? Hahahhaha. What's the weather like in Mountain View? The tricks we can do with Firefox. Is there no limit? Gotta love a wide-eyed DMOZ-lover troll with a humorous bend and some troll-techy skills.

    In my crystal ball I also see that you are making things up. Show me AOL's official announcement of these wondrous unknown blessings that you humourously allege are coming your way. Where is it?

    I'd be lying if I denied feeling great pleasure at the grovelling desperation that oozes from these anonymous trolls that the DMOZ cult sends over to DP to proselytize. It's quite a phenomena. I can see you in a green lizard suit, wearing an oversized tutu, singing hymns and mantras, passing out pamphlets or selling faded flowers at airport terminals. Normal people make a big detour around the cult freaks.

    It is a refreshing change from RZ arrogance.
     
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    Then wait and see if your balls tell you right or wrong.

    edit to add, whatever you are on I would not mind some, what are you on about with "mountain view"?
     
    Anonymously, Jul 17, 2007 IP
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    Patience is a must besides quality it took 6 months for me to get listed :)
     
    zangief, Jul 17, 2007 IP
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    http://www.google.com/search?source...L,GGGL:2006-43,GGGL:en&q=Mountain+View+google

    I'd assume at least...

    I'm really hoping it's a COMPLETE overhaul... they can start by purging the database (sites and editors), and starting from scratch.
     
    Qryztufre, Jul 17, 2007 IP
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    You know exactly what I mean. I love it when you play innocent. Say, did you register a duplicate account from Yahoo's IP range as well? AltaVista's maybe? Dogpile?

    My crystal ball tells me you're blowing foul winds, and it's rarely wrong. Why don't you make a turn at Resource-Zone? Your friends are waiting to hear the good news.
     
    helleborine, Jul 17, 2007 IP
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    Please tell more. I only see the same names at the top of the meta report.
     
    brizzie, Jul 17, 2007 IP
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    Like everyone says, it's a waiting game. Took me 6 weeks to finally get listed.

    I have noticed a spike in traffic, but that could also be because of my other marketing efforts.
     
    add_cents, Jul 17, 2007 IP
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