Back in the days it was different. We didn't talk about Islam. But Muslims here started talking about it. Westerners would argue or complain about the constant advertising and wind up being threatened and such. I agree with you that poor Muslims are just pawns, but whose fault is this? I remember Indonesian friends constantly complaining about the government and how unfair it was that Westerners had so much more money. The remembered to pray 5 times a day, go to the mosque and when a synagogue was built they stood by while the local government bulldozed it. So no pity from me. Everyone needs to clean up their own backyard and actions speak louder than words. As Michelle Pfeiffer once said: "There are no victims in this class".
It was my understanding that Osama was a Saudi Arabia issues guy. He was pissed off at the US for our meddling and association with the Saudi Kingdom. From what I've read, he didn't give two sh*ts about Palestine until it became politically expedient to do so. Now the "Holy Land" is the number one Al Queda talking point.
"holy land" for Muslim means Arabia and for Jews and Christians is Jerusalem. Jerusalem was first Muslim Kiblah but isn't Holy land for us. after a while Bin-laden/Al-Qada motto inclueded Muslim lands and yeah nowadays Al-Qada took more attention on Jews but haven't heard they act in this way.
Strange that as some Sunni muslims regard Jersusalem as the third holiest and the "Farthest Mosque (Al-Aqsa Mosque) is even mentioned in the Quran
yes you right Al-Aqsa is a holy Mosque but when Koran descent no Mosque exited out of Arabia and Jerusalem was a Jewish city on that time. but will search in Koran for sure.
/Gasp! I thought the Jews were the evil invaders and the Palestinians were the rightful and original owners of Jerusalem.
RevelationC Searched in Koran but couldn't find Al Aqsa on it. about qiblah change mentioned in Chapter 2: AL-BAQARA (THE COW) verses 142 to 150 but didn't mentioned any name for first qiblah the fools among the people will say: what has turned them from their qiblah which they had? say: the east and the west belong only to allah; he guides whom he likes to the right path (142) and thus we have made you a medium (just) nation that you may be the bearers of witness to the people and (that) the messenger may be a bearer of witness to you; and we did not make that which you would have to be the qiblah but that we might distinguish him who follows the messenger from him who turns back upon his heels, and this was surely hard except for those whom allah has guided aright; and allah was not going to make your faith to be fruitless; most surely allah is affectionate, merciful to the people (143) indeed we see the turning of your face to heaven, so we shall surely turn you to a qiblah which you shall like; turn then your face towards the sacred mosque, and wherever you are, turn your face towards it, and those who have been given the book most surely know that it is the truth from their lord; and allah is not at all heedless of what they do (144) and even if you bring to those who have been given the book every sign they would not follow your qiblah, nor can you be a follower of their qiblah, neither are they the followers of each other's qiblah, and if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, then you shall most surely be among the unjust (145)
That's because the reference is to the "Farthest Mosque" and mentions something to come. Where did you copy and paste that qiblah stuff from? So am I to take it you are admitting Muslims started off preying towards Jerusalem and then changed to prey towards the Kaaba stone then? Did you find the reference to Mohammed saying a Prayer in the Farthest Mosque (what became Al-Aqsa) was worth 500 more prayers to all Mosques including the Mosques of Medina and Meccah by any chance?
can find it here http://www.parsquran.com/data/show.php?quantity=&lang=eng&sura=2&ayat=138&user=eng&tran=1 you can search it your self by write " Quran Chapter 2: AL-BAQARA (THE COW) verses 142 to 150" will find it so easy in google. and also veres here yes it mentioned in histories wrote by Muslim. one of the reason was Jews atittude. day laugh at muslim when see they bow toward Jeruslem. no, never heard any thing about that.
Strange I read that Mohanned had a revelation from Allah at Medina, though whether it was Allah of the Angel Gabriel is another thing, and that was why the change from Jerusalem to worshiping towards the Kaaba stone was made
"Abu Darda is quoted a saying that the Prophet said: "The reward of a prayer in the Sacred Mosque (in Makkah) is worth 100,000 prayers, a prayer in my mosque (in Medina) is worth 1,000 prayers and a prayer in al Aqsa Mosque (Jerusalem) is worth 500 prayers more than in any other mosque." [Hadis al-Bukhari] Don't see what is your fuss about this hadis. And Ka'aba is not a "stone", it is a building.
It is the building where they house satan? Or is that mohamuds spirit? (I guess that is pretty much the same thing huh.)
Alright you Abamanation hero, you are very proud that you put across a question and ask Muslims to answer when you know nothing about your own religion! (I don't know even if you believe in religion!) Answerring the Poem Part : Fatwa was against mingling of men and women : read this, This is not allowed in Islam, it is a law and it cannot be allowed. just like robbery and rape cannot be allowed under any countries law! Every country has different laws and Arab has Islamic laws. So if they want they can convict her as per Arabic Govt. law and Islamic law! If in any country of this world, speaking against the govt. and the governing law is allowed or any act against country is allowed, then she be pardoned, else convicted. She shouldn hav done that! Adultry and Mingling of men and women is not allowed in any religion (Christianity, Hebrews, Hindus, Muslims, and so onnn)!!!!! Not everyone practices! Its just that people mould religion as per their need, they believe only in the part which is convenient and manipulate which is inconvenient !!! Lets get to so called terrorism! As she as per you referd to in her poem! What do you call as terrorism! Killing innocent people!?? So when a Muslim does a suicide bomb somewhere in the world all Muslims are hold account for that! But when Some forces like NATO etc. falsely attack Muslim countries saying they posses weapons of blaaah blaaaaahhhh destruction, y can't we hold all you people account for that! If a Muslim kills someone in America, whole Muslim community is accused, but when thousands wer killed in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kashmir, y can't we hold all the people from your countries as terrorists. From our eyes you people are terrorists and from your eyes we are terrorists! So until and unless we never use our mind and stop killing people from both sides terrorism will never die!!!! I will go on on on until one us or all the world perishes! It was her opinion, Which she conveyed, all people across the world have different opinion on terrorism!As some or the other thing went wrong and terrorism came, its a human nature(Either to kill or overpower!) but a human should always be asking himself that how many times did i stop the act of violence, how many times did i saved myself from hurting someone or blaming some one! That will make this earth a peaceful place to live! Here is a question for you! will it be nice to ask urself everyday that how many times did i post on DP forum against Muslims, or how many times did i post something on DP forum which was not against someone but in benefit of someone! Stop discussing and condemning someone, do something which can help someone! Post things like; how one should stay away from wrong things which hurt others at individual basis. Then we all will have the right to blame or wrong someone! Pray for the peace of humanity!!!!!!!!!
mingling of men and women banned/permitted in Islam!? just see some part of Koran that mentioned it about Prophet's wives. is it for other Muslim women as well? Fatwa is more depends on a Mullah and accepted by his followers and could be different in concept for some other Mullahs. I remembered Ayatollah Khomeini permitted many things that had been prohibited for centuries as chess, backgammon, caviar, shark meat and so on but now Ayatollah Sistani supreme Shiite leader in Iraq tell all of them are prohibited in Islam. I remember 25 years ago when eat Caviar became permitted by Ayatollah Khomeini people made a joke! " a guy died and went to heaven, in there saw some people were moving from hell to heaven, so asked Gabriel. the guy: what's going on? Gabriel: they were in heaven because ate caviar. the guy: how about that people who are waiting in gate of hell with their luggage? Gabriel: they ate caviar with alcohol so waiting for new Fatwa by Khomeini to alcohol become permitted and move to heaven!"
I think she must respect of Islam It has meaning of each and every question, Just go through this then think about that.