You mean to say Muslim men are such sex-starved pervs that they'd rape a woman if she doesn't cover her face? Pathetic. Maybe if you stop beheading people for premarital affairs then they'd be more inclined to have consensual sex than rapes. Some people need to grab a beer or two, get a life and get laid bro rather than sitting behind your computer waiting for their parents to find a burqa clad women who they can beat for sex. [video=youtube;46yJ2Ho__QU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46yJ2Ho__QU[/video]
You have problem with Muslim women who wear hijab, what about chiristan and Jewish women who also wear the hijab :-? Half of the total number of crimes against women reported in 1990 related to molestation and harassment at the workplace. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_India#Sexual_harassment [video=youtube;Yp5ORAqZIlA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp5ORAqZIlA[/video]
Closer. Now you've made an observation about her words, still without expressing an opinion on whether her words are right or not, or whether you agree with them. I also appreciate that you hinted at the idea her country may have the right to punish her for speaking out against certain fatwas. In a country ruled by the religious (Sharia), isn't that sedition? Want to take another shot at it, or are you and the rest(besides wmghori) going to continue to hide behind nuance? By the way, I love the continued posting of Dr. Naik. I consider it analogous to me posting clips of Sponge Bob in support of my views. Keep it up.
Ofcource different country, different law. and i have not seen any country who is ruled my religious, sorry confused about your words? analogous ?? what does its mean? my English in not Good, even i am student of UK, but still not good in English, for Dr.Naik well he is doing really good job, fastly number of Hindues accepting Islam because of his hard work
Are you serious? Afghanistan(Taliban)? Iran? Saudi Arabia(Islamic Kingdom)? Sharia is rule by Islamic law. What is the Islamic penalty for calling a fatwa a lie under Sharia? I offered you the opportunity to include your personal opinion about the words spoken, rather than just commenting that they are not in contradiction to the Quran. www.dictionary.com. Comparable to. i.e. "You posting Dr. Naik as a credible source of information is comparable to me posting Sponge Bob as a credible source of information". Entertaining to watch, for a certainty, but no attachment to reality.
Not sure what your Islamic web browser looks like and or if it comes with a search tool, but my Freedom web browser has two search tools, one is Google and the other is Bing. If you copy and paste the text into one of them, you will get a definition of the meaning of ANALogous. To save you time, I did it for you by pasting the word analohous on my Freedom Browser and this is what it tells me.
Obamanation explained very well with our hurting me ans saying wrong to my religion. are they? My uncle live in Saudi arab and he says Its a Islamic country but not with Islamic law, like Pakistan is a Islamic country but their law is changed with Islamic law, and same thing happened with other countries. as much as i know there is no country in the world who is following religious law Already formed my opinion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_legal_systems Afghanistan, Bangladesh, The Gambia, Iran, Libya, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and Yemen all currently practice Sharia(Correctly or otherwise, it is the law of the land). In Iran, it is said the mullahs hold more power than the President. That aside, my understanding is Muslims practice Sharia amongst themselves whether it is the law of the land or not. There are a group of Muslims in the UK, and various other parts of the world who have done exactly that. So now that we have established that a) there are states which hold Sharia to be the law of the land, and b) Islamic law exists for Muslims whether or not it is the law of the land, please answer the questions. I have no doubt. It is the sharing of that opinion we are all waiting for.
I am so happy to know that finally there are some country who are totally based on Islamic Law. I wish in Pakistan we have this too. Well what this woman said and what the order of this in Sharia, i dont know, because i have not practice Islamic in my country. i have not seen punishment of such kind of matter in Pakistan. So, i can not says any thing about it. As much as i know she does not said any thing wrong about Allah (SWT), Prophet (PBUH) and the Quran, so i have not seen any thing wrong, But she speak against about country sharia, how they deal, only the people of that country knows well!!! Any update about that woman?
Article is wrong about the Sharia Law on Saudi Arabia cause its a Kingdom. Islamic law state that leadership must be chosen by the people. They have implemented some Islamic laws but last word is of the king not Allah. Bangladesh has a modified form of English common law. Afghanistan followed mixture of tribal and Islamic laws under Taliban rules but not anymore. Now its mixture based on civil and Islamic law and tribal law. Other countries don't follow Islamic law completely either.
Thats what i know as well, no country follow the Islamic law completely because other religion people also live in the same country and its difficult to follow Islamic law with others minotires like Hindu, Sikh, christan, jews etc. thats why there is mixture of law in Islamic states
What nonsense. The long list of other things that don't exist are a true free market economy, a purely socialist state, a true democracy, etc etc etc. That said, most accept that America's mixed market economy demonstrates enough of the principals of a free market economy to use it as an example of how free market economies work. You can go on and on about how there is no "True" Islamic law state on the planet, but there are many more states than the ones I mentioned which base their legal systems on the principals of Islamic law. You guys will go round and round in any kind of academic discussion to avoid answering the very simple questions. Maybe I should rephrase the question to help you stop avoiding answering. What would be the penalty for a woman such as this, who spoke out as she did in the way that she did against the clerics and their fatwas, if she, the clerics and the fatwas came from a state that was truly and properly ruled by Islamic law?
When I say poll I just mean a question meant to gather information on a body of people. Not necessarily a forum/voting poll. I do have opinions, but I do not know enough about the Muslim way to express my opinions yet in a relational way. I was wrong for placing myself against this topic (and it seems that no mod took action either so good!). So my apologies. Will someone explain the law to me? Is it that if anyone insults a member of the religious order then they are liable to answer to a legal system? And my quick rhetorical question that reveals how I feel about the idea of punishing someone for offending you: What does a Muslim have in God that can be defiled by the words of Man?
Talk about a contradiction in terms! Do you even realise what you have just told us all vebtools? You have just openly admitted that in your and likely others opinions only those wearing the Burkha are not to be raped!!! Go take a listen to Aretha Franklin's "Respect" and learn some. I believe you are criminally insane young man, a danger to any sane society and a hardline extremist with little understanding of things you have not been brainwashed to believe. You tell us you we're educated in one of these "innocent" Madrasas and then make statements that glaringly relay and outline your true colours as someone who is potentially a problematic young man with some severe beliefs who is bent on blaming the US for all your and your Countries problems, even going so far as saying the US caused the rise of the Taliban in your Country. You make statements along the lines of "no burka = fair game for rape". Then you wonder why others take exception to what you say and like me think you need some serious phsychiatric help. You make offensive statements against Jews - Christians and just about anyone else outside your warped belief in your Islam and what's more you have the audacity to do so by using Allah as God in order to back up your warped juvenile self serving egotistical selfish ideals with stupid statements like "They choose to wear the Burka" when you just made it clear there is no choice due to people who think the way you do. Here is some News for you > You have been deceived and brainwashed and the things you have been promised for taking the actions you do and may do are all just BULL. Safe from Rape - man you really showed what you are about there. The "Let's "Twist" (it) Again" from vebtools to follow >
I can't answer your questions because don't know what she intended. Yes for a Saudi woman, she was brave but not enough brave to don't wear a burqa and beside she didn't mention any name in her pomes so I guess she didn't pass red lines. Just said some general sentences against extremist without mentioned exactly refer to which one. maybe you know that Persian gulf regimens dislike Islamic extremists.
Her intent seems pretty clear. She is speaking out against the statements made by many Muslim clerics. Do you feel that is debatable? What other possible intent do you feel she might have had? If you want more background on her, she has given more than one interview clarifying her opinion. She said she wore the Berka because, had she not, nobody would have listened to her. She wanted to speak to Muslims, not to westerners. In regard to what cleric she was addressing, you could take the topics she spoke out against (illegalization of intimacy, bomb belts, and extremist violence) and target her words at any cleric who advocates such actions (there are many). To be fair, I only know what I read, see, and hear from a variety of sources. If you are truly in Iran, you have a much better view of how the people of your country, as a whole, view Islamic extremists. I know of at least one who is currently taking refuge in your country, though the Iranian regime has not been shy about sponsoring Islamic extremism around the Persian gulf to further it's own ends for quite some time now. Ahmadinejad himself is very open about his Muslim faith, holocaust denial, and hatred of the Jews, which leads me to believe all the assessments of him are correct. In America, we have all kinds of whacko's(Nut jobs, insane people, people with hateful, racist and violent agendas). I'd like to think they make up a small and embarrassing minority of our population which are allowed to speak their mind, but have a very difficult time ever achieving a position of power and influence within our government. Furthermore, the potentially violent amongst them are monitored carefully by our law enforcement agencies. I didn't fully understood your last sentence. Are you implying that the words of this woman are actually popular in the Persian gulf, and would be supported by the majority of people you know? If so, why are these states not rounding up these clerics and prosecuting them for inciting violence? It certainly isn't because the states are hesitant to use brutal force on their own people for anything they see as an infraction against their laws.
the thing is that some of the statements she said are true and the others i didnt understand.Islam doesnot allow suiside bombing but there are barbarics and mad people that blow them selves up. I would give u an example of something happened in my country Pakistani agencies caught some terrorists they asked them some questions and i would like to state that they were on a mision to blow themselves ie suiside mission the person asked if he prayed he said no the person asked if he read Quran he said no the person asked why did u come here ie why were u on a mission here he answered the people who sent me said i will go directly to heaven if i blew some people and they provided my family with some money the moral of the story is that normal Muslims are not suiciders but some illiterate people who dont know the world and live in remote places of the country are brain washed by the people who want to destroy the country ie the people who are against the country
Provide the family with some money I can understand, though it would suspect it would have to be a LOT of money to be enough to cause someone to kill himself. I know there is no amount of money you could offer me that would be worth the life of one of my children. That leaves going to heaven, which leads me to ask this question. Why would a person believe he is going to heaven if he is not religious? I think the point you are making, and it is a good one, is that it is poor and uneducated people (perhaps who cant read) who are being manipulated by the means of religion to commit these acts. That leaves the remaining question, once again, of why these governments are not rounding up clerics who sponsor this type of violence? The deaths of these poor ignorant people who kill themselves for Islam is truly on the heads of those clerics who promote such actions, and on the societies that watch the brainwashing happen on a daily basis and do nothing about it. Perhaps so few speak out because the consequences and fear are so great. I'm all ears for other possible reasons.
the thing is that i already said above brain wash teens and children who belong to very poor families that cannot afford one time meal in a day and they cannot even read and can be easily brain washed agencies and anti islam agencies go to them and tell them they are muslims and then tell them this crap and giv them alot of money and i have heard alot from people i have heard that people wear fake beards and then goto their houses and brain wash them