What Directories Don't Want You to Know.

Discussion in 'Directories' started by Germz, Apr 18, 2008.

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  1. snowbird

    snowbird Notable Member

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    #21
    Hey Germz, it was pretty bold of you to come into the directory forum and slam directories. :)

    Edited out by Snowbird. :)

    I think its safe to say that the many directories out there have their place in the food chain just as much as the many SEO/money making blogs do.
     
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    #22
    It is important, but it's not the only thing that matters. For example, I get SE traffic on Busybits with keywords from descriptions of submitted sites, so that traffic eventually ends in one of the listing from that category.
     
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    #23
    Thats realy good article.
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    #24
    Thanks for your article Germ, rather than waste my time arguing the point yet again (yes im finally learning that arguing with someone online makes as much sense as banging my head against a wall) il just say that obviously it didn't work for you and for me it does help some of my sites and not others.
     
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    #25
    
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    Is that for every other piece of content you've written? A guess? A complete and utterly unfounded, untrue stab in the dark? Just as I presumed.

    For the record, you should consider having a negative rating scale on your blog, that way I'd be able to rate your post justifiably.
     
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  6. Germz

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    #26
    I'm not saying people shouldn't visit directories I'm saying they shouldn't waste their time submitting to hundreds of them. And I don't know why people are getting so worked up about it... like I said before just move on and stop crying, if you don't like my post ignore it.

    I have never in my time online met a person who goes to a directory to browse websites. If people did that then Google would not exist.

    Very good post, I completely overlooked that part. Thank you very much, I will edit my article.

    This is great, I say "What Directories Don't Want You to Know." and it's true, people from the directory section are arguing with my point. I bet I would not get this kind of response if I were to post this in the SEO section?

    And for the record, if you don't like a post then ignore it, and if you have a negative comment then be sure to do constructed criticism and tell me what I did wrong, telling me that I'm an idiot by giving me bad reps is not a mature way to handle it. Tell me what I did wrong and tell me how to fix it, be a little mature, you guys are supposed to be the adults right?
     
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    #27
    Germz you sure talk a lot about page rank and if that is what you are focusing on then it leads me to believe you don't know much about SEO, so you lost me there.

    I should also mention that I do agree that 95% of the directories out there are probably not worth spending the time it takes to make a submission too, but not because of low page rank but because they are duplicate trash that won't be around in a few months anyways.
     
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  8. Germz

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    #28
    I'm not focusing on Pagerank, I'm focusing on the fact that submitting your site to Hundreds of directories because you think they will raise your PageRank is completely and utterly Point less.

    I've also made an edit on the article and it says
    Thank you for that post I would not have realized I overlooked other search engines.
     
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    #29
    You mention page rank at least 14 times in your blog post so it seems you are focused on it to me.

    I think the reason you are getting such a backlash of negative feedback from this post is because, like many bloggers you are trying to sensationalize something that is mostly common sense and if you are abreast of SEO news it is old fodder. For the past six months most webmasters have come to understand that chasing page rank will not likely have a good outcome because gooogle has decided to punish everyone with a broad stroke.
     
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    #30
    having pagerank does not make one famous. Fame is when you get in the media eg: newspapers, regional and national press, radio, television, magazines.
     
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    #31
    You can focus on PageRank Even though it doesn't really matter in SEO terms. The reason I wrote the post is because many others like me have been lied to and told that if we submit our site to say 500 different directories we will get a better page rank. Also please check the edits I've made to the post.
     
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    #32
    From your page:

    That's what I call a very fair edit to your post Germz. I edited my post in this thread as well.

    The truth is that no directory should be putting the squeeze on submitters to get listed for pagerank purposes. But the reality is that most submitters look at that little green bar before submitting. :)

    With submissions to free PR 0 directories, I can easily get a new site to a PR 3. But more important then this is the ability to use my desired anchor text as the link. In some cases the anchor text is a close variant, but it helps my clients and I rank for the keywords we choose.

    I'll be the first to admit that a directory submission is worth much less then a comment on a good blog post when trying to increase ones PR. However, I also understand that passing up any opportunity to link back to my site is foolish. Directories have, and always will be, a part of a Webmasters self link building strategy.

    Have a good day Germz.
     
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    #33
    You'll get a minor link benefit from PR0 links - nothing to brag about and definitely not worth the submission process. You're better off blog commenting.
     
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    #34
    Lol :) i dont know what happend with me then, but all the PR0 backlinks i get sure do help me.

    Significantly.
     
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    #35
    Pipes, are you sure you haven't been getting backlinks from people you don't know?
     
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    #36
    That's probably about right — "a minor link benefit from PR0 links". But a benefit nonetheless for those of us with time to submit.
     
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    #37
    If you've got time to submit to directories then I agree with MoneyMoose, Just use a blog "nofollow" search engine and start posting comments, at least with a comment you won't have to verify by checking your inbox... and you don't have to have a recyprocal link for a comment. You also post and you get a backlink instantly.
     
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    #38
    Its always possible i guess.
     
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    #39
    Your huge omission regarding the other search engines tells me that you did not do all of your homework before touting yourself as an expert in this matter. Sounds more like you are simply taking what other "seo professionals" have been talking about for months and trying to join the party.

    Instead of trying to make a name for yourself and "revealing" the obvious, you would have received a much better response had you approached this from more of a "why so many directories are not worth submitting to" or something similar. To paint with the wide brush of generalization does you, your blog, and your readers a great disservice.

    And all these authoritative comments about SEO, PR and directories from someone with a blog that is certainly not famous by your own definition of what it takes for one to be "famous" on the net. 0/10 pagerank? Gosh, what valuable thing could you possibly have to add to the world at large with such a low rank? :rolleyes:

    PR has never been a major part of my decision making process on evaluating a site's quality but as it so features in your's, I am simply following your own advice. :D

    And taking the time to glance at one of your other entries, it appears that you also have a blatant disregard for other people's copyrights if you think getting an image "from Google Images and I had edited and uploaded to my server" is OK to do. That is copyright infringement and should the owner of that photograph find you, they can sue you for it.

    Overall, not a stellar showing.
     
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    #40
    This works well, but still can be a grey area. Some blog owners get upset if you don't use your real name, while others let people use any name they want (some trashy stuff I've seen).

    For webmasters, there is an abundance of blogs to comment on. Many of my directory submission clients have an online presence but spend most of their time in the offline world. For example, one of my monthly clients is a cement contractor. I don't think they are too keen on posting on blogs, not to mention many blog owners would not allow a comment from someone named cement contractor. I know, it can be done but certainly would look quite spammy.

    Here's an idea for a future blog post Germz. Take a look at the backlink profile of the top ten sites ranking for "search engine optimization." Take a look at where they are getting their links from. I've seen backlinks coming from patio furniture sites, cow horn sites (for real lol), fishing lure sites, down syndrome sites, and a lot others. Expose how Google is in bed with these SEO companies and allows them to manipulate the SERPS with paid links. That could be an interesting post. Because despite what Google says about paid links, they certainly turn a blind eye to an industry so closely related to their own.

    Have a good day...
     
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