What Christian Missionary's does in India !!!

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  1. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Man they have never forced anyone to convert. are you telling me their first intention was to convert these people to christianity. I cant believe that because im christian and i was never taught to have hidden intentions towards anyone. I have many hindu friends and have never tried to convert any of them. I would be just as happy if the rich people in india started helping the poor also and how do u know what each persons intentions is.

    jesus taught to help the poor but he never said to help the poor because u want to convert them. He taught in the bible to help others and never expect anything in return and to be as wise as the serpeant and as harm;less as the dove. I think maybe ur ticked off that they might be converting from their own free will.

    Show me one proof that they are causing communal voilence as it is also against christian teachings to cause voilence or have hidden intentions towards others
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Ash can u bring us some proof of all this. I have a very open mind and im willing to listen to anything
     
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    infonote Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Mother Theresa and company was in India probably before you where born. What are they doing wrong?

    So they can not preach about Christianity, but you can preach about Atheism or whatever your Religion is.

    This is hypocrisy at its best.
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Maybe there are extremist christian missionaries like the 700 club out there but has mother teresa ever stopped caring for anyone taht didnt convert to christianity? Man you guys dont even know her. She was in lebanon during the civil war helping christians and muslims who were shot at, hungry, had no shelter. Why dont u ask the muslim people of lebanon if she ever tried to convert them. Now you are making blanket statements against all christian missionaries. If any christian ever turned away a poor person because they didnt convert than this is teh ultimate sin and goes against everything jesus christ ever taught us. Jesus taught to love ur brother as u would urself. He never said love your christian brother more than ur muslim brother, or hindu brother or atheist brother. You love your fellow man the same
     
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  5. pulikuttann

    pulikuttann Banned

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    #25

    Since I have a knowledge in Bible I know that it didn't teach u to have a bad intention behind helping others.But ................... !!!
    Think twice ................... >>>>>>>.

    What is there in Quaran ..............
    What is there in Baghvath Geetha .............
    And all other Religious Books ..............

    But the followers are doing what they want.
    They didn't simply bother abt what there books say.They simply keep what they want.

    Di u know why in India the Hindu Majority kill x-tains and muslims ??
    Its only bcoz that they are making problem what is not said in there books and there religion.

    But many of others are created by Political Shits !!!
     
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  6. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #26
    Well im sure that there are probably extremist christians that might be causing trouble there, and im saying these people are only christian by name and not by their actions.
     
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    dotcompals Prominent Member

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    #27
    There is no killing of x-tains and Muslims by Hindus in India. If there is, that is very rare and stray.

    Also there is no section which is extremist among extremist Christians in India. They are the most well behaved and cultured section in the population of India.
     
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    ash1 Active Member

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    #28
    sometimes persuasive propagation/manipulation is more dangerous than the gun...

    many examples of this in history
     
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    ash1 Active Member

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    #29
    simple...its funny that many can think muslims are bad because they use physical force...

    but many of the same ppl think its okay for christians to use MORE force but just in other methods...
    the point here is...there will be a rebellion/revolution where ppl are sick of getting exploited..its happened in history over and over...especially where catholics tried to exploit so many cultures...

    but all im letting you know is that you should be rready...

    basically in a nut shell, the poor and uneducated are being expoited, while the rich and educated of the same culture are making those poor and uneducated aware of the situation, so just like the poor and naive were so easy to become fundamentalist christians for free food, they can turn back in a second and will be more dangerous..

    its all because of the missionaries..

    its not just in india...in pakistan/iraq/afhanistan/indonesia/malaysia/ethiopia/somalia etc...they are causing problems everywhere

    and i know first hand how missionaries dont take no for an answer, even in Canada..they are crazy...and as a human being i dont have to take shit from another human being or being woken up every day at 10am cuz someone keeps coming to my door..

    they should all goto jail and are 10 times worst than any telemarketer..
     
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    dotcompals Prominent Member

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    #30
    In all these listed countries the main problem for all the menace is poverty and that is because of unemployment. Not the missionaries .
     
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    #31
    hey @pullikuttan, will ya just take your bullshit somewhere else. Atleast the converted christians are not taking up arms like those mofo jehadist.

    Nor will they take up arms in the near forseeable future. You are the kind of people who go around parks bullying couples , wrecking bars, defacing valentines day celebration. All in the name of hinduism.

    You freak, go look up the scriptures. The Gita, it says live and let live. Hinduism is one of the most tolerant and liberal religion. or how could you explain kamasutra.

    As for valentines day, hindus had Basantoutsav for thousands of years celebrating love and lovers.

    Go read up history, hindu kings of yore, gave refuge to Parsis and let the propagate their faith (now TATA is a house hold name, so is Bombay Dyeing and countless others), gave refuge to christians too.

    In case you are wondering. I am a hindu and a staunch believer.
     
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    #32
    So you agree that hundreds of millions of rural Indians continue to live under oppression and exploitation? What sort of irrational fear prevents you from accepting that Christian missionaries might be doing some good by providing the means (food, housing, education) for these people to help themselves out of their terrible situation?

    You are right. Not much progress in the first 1000 years - do we have to wait another 1000?

    How can you equate providing food, education and a means to better oneself with exploitation? Perhaps there is a little enlightened self-interest going on on the part of the sponsoring churches. But the only people I can see that might fear eradicating caste oppression are the oppressors who in some way benefit from it.

    Words are cheap. Likewise, I'd be willing to guarantee that the day you speak of will not occur in your lifetime, nor in your grandchildren's lifetime, if ever. Caste divisions even exist at the parliamentary level. But, hey, just keep creating smokescreens by blaming others' good intentions - that will solve all your problems, right?
     
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    #33
    Some missionaries do a pretty good job while others go to exploit the poor and turn them into Christians. Its actually very prevalant in India. there are missionaries from America, Canada, Australia.
     
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    pulikuttann Banned

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    #34
    Nor will they take up arms in the near forseeable future. You are the kind of people who go around parks bullying couples , wrecking bars, defacing valentines day celebration. All in the name of hinduism.

    Don't estimate any one without knowing him more !!!

    You freak, go look up the scriptures. The Gita, it says live and let live. Hinduism is one of the most tolerant and liberal religion. or how could you explain kamasutra.

    Did u know what Hinduism is ???
    As u said its NOT a religion its a Culture ............. !
    Its a tradition ................. !

    It Emerges through generation ............... !
    As many people think its NOT a foolish religion worshiping Idiols ........ !!!
    It have truth ...............
    Try to study more abt Hinduism.

    U just think abt America or other countries with X-Tain Majorities ....... !
    In India Hindus are 100 times more than there minorities ........ !
    But we live in Brotherhood and Co-Operation ( Except some Blady problems created by Politics ) ................. !

    I am from Kerala and if u try to study our history u can find that when Islam emerge in India ( first in Kerala ) the Kings and the other people help them to grow there religion.

    And for the coming more and more centuries we live in peace and brother until the English Men make us divide .............. !

    So who is the reason of problem in our Country

    THE GREAT INDIA --- Yes the X-tain English Men .........
     
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    #35
    I do not think this forum is the right place to take up these issue.
    If something is wrong Why do not you take help of an NGO and make a documentary flim on this and show the world things are really that bad?

    Mother Teressa was also trying to convert people to christainity by all means
    If you wanted to marry an orphan from her orphanage, you would have to become christain

    So is the current chief minister of Andhra Pradesh, he has given contract for midday meal to few missionaries and all student has to pray to jesus before midday meal is given to them


    Personally I think conversion is not that big issue in compared to casteism,reservation,corruption

    Jesus is as divine as our Krishna, or Buddha or Nanaka, they are just God's messenger to teach human being how to live a right life and go back to the source from where we have all come.
    However missionaries wrongly thinks that only if you accept jesus you will go to heaven
    I asked one of the preacher how many people will go to heaven , the answer was around 144000 so rest of them does not have any future !!!
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #36
    IT< not all missionaries believe that only christians go to heaven. This is for only the christians that interpret the bible to the extreme and im sure mother teresa didnt feel this way either. I have amny hindu friends and if im lucky enough to make it to heaven i would like to see them with me also
     
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    #37
    I think we are all waiting for some examples of the missionaries who are exploiting and what is their group name that they go by. Most missionaries have a name or church they represent - if they are Christian missionaries and IF they are exploiting anyone please tell us all who they are and some proof and examples of what they are doing.

    Basically after reading the thread and no response from the accuser on who and what I am doubting the integrity of the story.
     
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    #38
    Sory bout posting in this "old" topic...but i couldnt help correcting some errors. First of all, in christianity, it is taught that Jesus is God...and not some divine messenger of God. Anyway, where are the evidence that Christian missionaries force ppl to convert to their religion? Have you ever been helped by a christian missionary?. Or do you just feel jealous becos the christians are helping out while you just stand around and do nothing?. Granted, there might appear christian missionaries by name while they are not really christian missionaries. But you shouldnt use their behaviour to reflect the entire christian community. If you say christians are wrong because they offer help in return for ppl to convert, thats like saying discounts are wrong becos they tempt ppl to buy the discounted product.

    How can you say that the christian missionaires causes problems in your society. Its because other ppl of other religions feel threatened and do not what the poor ppl in india to think that other religions are better. If you say christians causes murders in India, that is like so totally illogical. If it really happened, it would surely make news world wide. Anyway, im from Malaysia and a christian. I can honestly say that we live very harmoniously with ppl of other religions and races. I have neighbours of many religions... we help and alert each other when theives are around.

    Anyway, not trying to cause an arguement here...just expressing my opinions. :)
     
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    #39
    Whoever comes up with accusation must be able to provide proof and you will get help, even from Christians.

    While checking sometimes the web at persecution.org I get a different picture. You can even post your complaints there and they will check if you have substantial proof or leads to 'missionaries' who do such things.

    don't make evil jokes of that. It's too serious. don't listen to rumours. Have all verified.

    In the bigger cities in India you can't walk out on the road at night. If you have just a pen in your breast-pocket you're done.

    And when someone gives money to the poor, what's wrong? the poorest are lacking many things for a long time and some handouts will truly help them to cover some of their needs.

    I'm pretty confident that there are no Christian missionaries acting as described here. If someone pretends to be, check their Mother Church and have it verified.

    http://www.persecution.org/suffering/index.php
     
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