I always get red rep from DMOZ editors with no comment, do you mean they are terrorist too? Get a grip on reality, while I consider most of your posts in these subjects some where between stupid and moronic and mia not far behind, I don't give you or anyone else red rep, because it is a stupid way of handling a discussion and got nothing to do with on which side of argument your are.
Gworld, I get it from your posts that you may not be religiously attached (I might be wrong though) and that therefor you don't relate to the motives. Not everything is as Logical as you try to make it out to be. You believe what you see and can relate to from your perspective. That IMO is where you don't see the issues for what they are. People will die for their believes. I would die for my beliefs as well, but I know that my beliefs do not include blowing up stuff in order to win God's grace.
I agree, jimnoble can always bore you to death. At least they are not Muslim terrorists since they are having too much fun with their porn sites in DMOZ.
I admire your dedication for whatever you believe to be true. But with all due respect, I think that you don't realize the power of motivation that people draw from what they believe in. I do believe that the factor of oil and money does weigh in, but only to a certain extent. When the Arabic Congress was asked to vote on the most important issue in the world and they named the Israeli - Palestinian conflict, that has nothing to do with money. It is way deeper than that. At the end of the day we are all left alone with our thoughts and feeling regardless of what our financial gain is, and whatever drives us will determine our actions. Religion is powerful. There is no easy way out of this situation. I think that religious believes are the key to terror. If you believe it is Allah's will to go against Jews and Christians and that your reward will come in heaven, that IMO is exactly what will help them overcome their common sense, get into an airplane, hijack it, and blow themselves up with as many Americans and/or jews as they can.
So what do you guys suggest exactly? 1) what should other people, nations, governments do? 2) what should we, DP members, do? After all this is the topic...
Yes, well... I draw motivation from what I believe in. Treat people as you would like to be treated yourself. Don´t judge people by their skin colour or religion. If you need to commune with your God, a big open field and a blue sky will do just as well as a cathedral. Your beliefs are as valid as mine and I respect your right to have them. Don´t touch my children or my family or I will hunt YOU down personally and flay the skin off your flesh then feed your flesh to scorpions, rats and whatever pit bulls are left in Denver. BUT I will not blame your race, religion or colour of knickers for you being a sad, misguided and crazy individual.
Oh bugger off. Them! What does that mean? All you self righteous we-are-Christian-and-we-know-the-way geezers piss me off. Even worse when it is we-are-American-and-we-are-Christian. What the hell do you know? If your father, mother, or baby sister dies in a bomb explosion you grow up hating the perpetrators. If your land is taken from you by an oppressing country, you grow up hating that country. If your father died in Vietnam - who do you hate? The Vietnamese - or your government for sending your father (grandfather) on a useless war? We are all pawns, people. And when money, oil or resources are at stake, we will never know the truth. Stop! The only way it will ever stop (if you really want it to) is by integrating, by trying to understand the other person´s point of view. Note: I am not saying that those who lost family in 9/11 don´t have a reason to hate, to hurt and to want restitution. Of course they do. Of course the kids in Ireland who grow up on one side or the other have reason to hate and to want revenge. It is all so tragic and an endless circle. You killed my father, I´ll kill yours. Hate feeds on itself. Step back. Take one mf/ing deep breath. And look at what politics are doing to us. Even here on DP. I love the internet because it is faceless, raceless, 100% equal. Do you see that little girl up there in my avatar? Going by what half of you say here you would have her exterminated. Her dad is Morrocan. So, bloody what?
@arnie - you missed my point, i really know what saddam did but that was far away from what i was talking about... @e10 - you said it all... i agree all that you said. i'll give one plain example. croats were in war with serbs because they attacked our country (just 10 years ago). should I, as croat, hate my future wife just because she was born as serb? how can i date person who's country fought with mine? I really don't care about this bullshit (excuse my french ). same thing you can say for americans and "muslims" or "catholics" and "muslims"...
mia, I am not going to argue with you. If you don´t understand what I said, that is okay. You have a right to your opinion and I have a right to mine. I won´t be back in this thread to justify what I said. I don´t think it needs any explanation or justification. Go back and read it again if you are confused.
There is nothing to argue about. No, I really do not understand what you were attempting to say. My opinion has nothing to do with anything when I cannot understand what your point is No, no justification or explanation needed. Perhaps some clarification though. I'm not confused, I'm just concerned about all the baseless assumptions that are made, ie., "Self righteous we-are... blah, blah, blah. My apologies, the post just did not make any sense to me. Perhaps I need to have a stiff drink first. I think I'll go do that now.
ha ha I knew there was a reason I loved this woman. What a speech Jules! Aw really, that's so cool! She's blummin' adorable by the way!
Shhessss talk about sensitive, I know not all muslims are bombers, just because all bombers are muslim doesnt mean anything.
lol GTech said something similar the other day, but he said most and not all. get ready for some heat in here
Agreed. But sometimes it seems like those that do not, are supportive of those that do. I think that is what really bothers a lot of people here.