What can you suggest to stop terror?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Arnie, Jul 22, 2005.

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How should the world community deal with the Iranian NBomb threat

Poll closed May 22, 2006.
  1. Tough (in negotiations)

    4 vote(s)
    5.3%
  2. Tougher (sanctions)

    5 vote(s)
    6.6%
  3. Toughest (even to war)

    19 vote(s)
    25.0%
  4. Other Muslim states must go against Iranians attempt too

    6 vote(s)
    7.9%
  5. All of the above

    23 vote(s)
    30.3%
  6. Tolerance

    15 vote(s)
    19.7%
  7. Have to stock pampers first before I vote

    4 vote(s)
    5.3%
  1. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #1281
    Bush is also a CIA veteran, so what? Shall I post his comments and interviews? Remember, and he's the president now.
    Stop eeling around, you might strungulate yourself ;)
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1282
    Why? Do you want to call Bush Muslim terrorist too? :rolleyes:
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #1283
    You failed, as usual. You were much better at calling Americans "ignorant." Perhaps you should stick to that, or bossing sheep.

    The 22 year veteran you champion is an anonymous source. Is that what you rely on for your intelligence these days? Could be anyone. If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. What did you fall for today, gworld?
     
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  4. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1284
    Why do you think I failed? Arnie called the CIA agent Muslim terrorist as I predicted.

    The CIA veteran is not unknown source because his job description and book has been confirmed by CIA, the only unknown factor about him is his name but not everybody is like the White House to give out CIA's secret agents name in order to accomplish their own agenda. :rolleyes:
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #1285
    He most certainly did not. So shallow your attempted "gotcha" was, it took me a while to actually find it.

    You said those words of yourself. Your history of attacks on the US, Israel, Christianity and Jews, couple with your defense of islam, would make those words fit you very well. We know who you want to win in Iraq.

    At no time did he ever call a supposed CIA Agent a muslim terrorist. The words you used in an attempt to trap him were represented as your own, and to be honest, fit you quite well. Is there anyone that doesn't know who you support and who you attack?

    Lame gworld. The lamest I've seen yet and that's saying quite a bit.

    Stick to calling Americans ignorant, and bossing sheep. Those two things, you've demostrated exceptional ability to master.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1286
    Gtech

    I see you are back to your old tricks of repeating non-sense about how everyone that doesn't agree with you is Muslim terrorist, have you found any proof for what you are saying? It seems you run away in the other thread when people start to challenge you and ask for proof. I know the answer, according to you, anyone who asks for proof is a Muslim terrorist. :rolleyes:

    Other thread
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #1287
    And yet you went right on attacking by calling Americans ignorant:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=292658&postcount=152

    Then when put in context, went on to pretend to champion education:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=292979&postcount=167

    Then asserted your dismay that your buds were not free to do more harm:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=297704&postcount=1275

    Ignored another rational question from mia:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=297716&postcount=1276

    Back to attacking Christianity:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=293950&postcount=1245

    Followed by more attacks on Christianity:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=295188&postcount=1248

    All the while, something of a serious nature comes up:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=25713&page=13

    and the best response you have is:

    Then run away, like you did on the moon god discussion and everything else you try, but fail to defend or prove.

    What were you saying? Oh, you were making up a lie about Arnie and when confronted with the low life way you tried, but failed, changed the subject.

    In other news:

    Another one of your buds, this one from Florida, doesn't seem to have things going his way.

    Here's an interesting twist in life. Infidels strike back. No head sawing though.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1288
    Unlike you, I stand by all my posts, if you have a specific point, tell us your point and objection to what I wrote instead of meaningless link list and trying to fool people that you have a point.

    The only thing that you were right about was the fact that I didn't answer mia questions about occupation since I though that it was clear for everyone that Iraq was occupied by USA.:rolleyes:

    How is going with your KKK activity? :)
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1289
    And you stand by your baseless "KKK" accusastions. Sick.
     
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    #1290
    I would say good point but there is more than one here, unless you are one trying to pretend you have none. Like when my little ones fight, one covers his ears and says "I can't hear you, na na na na na"
    :eek:
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #1291
    You haven't answered many other questions either, about the New Testament for example.

    You're ignoring the main points of posts, like the death of thousands and thousands of innocent people where clear evidence is shown, you're only looking for something to lash out a Gtech, Mia and others.

    By the way, coming back to you anonymous poster from the CIA.

    It was and is quite logical that muslims(not all) and the terrorists are using the situation for recruiting more and more terrorists and this isn't a secret, since they pointed it out in their agenda as well (phase I out of VII). Yes, they don't care about their fellow brothers either. All that showing the same signs as it was with the crusades by the romans before.

    Does this mean for you that we have to surrender to terror? Or do you mean that we have to apply to the dysfunctional systems of arab nations?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1292
    If any of you can come up with a point that you think that I should explain, I would explain but there is nothing there. I stand by my postings. I stated in my posting that "her first statement was based on ignorance that is shared by many Americans" and I still say that any average American that supports Bush policy of war, does so based on ignorance since these policies are not for the benefit of average people and only serve the interest of few who are getting rich by this war.

    You can look at the rest of my posts and you can see that I have not changed my opinion on any of those postings but if you don't agree with it, try to state your objection and reason for why you think that my posting is wrong and I will answer it. Just putting a link to my posting and stating that you don't like it or draw conclusions that has got nothing to do with my posting, does not prove your accusations but this is expected of Gtech, even everyone else understands his childish games.
     
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    #1293
    What is your question about New testament? It is an anti-Semite document, full with factual mistakes.
    I don't think that we should surrender to terror but there is a correct way of fighting something and there is a wrong way. I see you are still on your delusional rants about Anti-Christ, Jews, Muslims, Catholics and phase I out of VII, the problem is that I can not take this even serious, so I think the best thing for you will be to pass a secret hand written note to NSA like the last time. :rolleyes:
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #1294
    Could you tell us about the right way to fight terrorism? Please, please, please...

    And if you have found the "stone of the wise" we'll certainly push you for a nobel price. :D - no kidding then - and we will raise funds - a couple of hundred millions $$$ too...for you only...so that you can go along with your hobby...what was that again...aaaaah girls, right?

    PS:. Do they girls have to be "70? virgins"?:eek:

    We're open for every peaceful solution that works, but....
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #1295
    Incorrect. You said what you said. You called Americans ignorant. Then you went out of your way to post a link to illiteracy as if to justify your comment with the fact that millions in our (not your) country cannot read/write.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=292979&postcount=167

    Nice try, but we know what you said and we know what you meant. Pulling a John Kerry by reclarifying your comments multiple times when it doesn't make sense, doesn't work.

    But, you did ask. You did push the issue. You did ask me to show "a proofs" that you always seem to long for. You did say you did not attack the US, Israel, Christians and Jews, when clearly you continue to do so. And that's fine, if that's what you want to continue to do. It's when you lie and say you don't; it's when you lie and say you are about equality; when you lie and say you are against all religions equally, that what you do really comes to light.

    You don't like Bush, or anyone else that is against terrorism. We get it. We know what you prefer. We know what you support. We know what you attack. We know what you defend. How much clearer can you make it?
     
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    #1296
    If you are complaining that I said many Americans are ignorant then your post proves my statement. Here is my quote:

    "her first statement was based on ignorance that is shared by many Americans"

    It seems you do not understand the word many, here is the meaning from dictionary.com

    man·y

    Being one of a large indefinite number; numerous: many a child; many another day.
    Amounting to or consisting of a large indefinite number: many friends.

    A large indefinite number: A good many of the workers had the flu.

    If I didn't know about anyone else then by noticing your Ignorance and some other members here I still could say many Americans and I would be right since many is not a defined number. :) It seems you are so desperate and lack any proof for your postings that you insist I should defend myself against something that I am admitting to have said.
     
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    #1297
    There is a large body of material and experience on how to fight the terrorism and Guerrilla warfare but the problem is that present government is not interested and instead of letting the professionals do their job, is more interested in actions that keep the price of oil up or serve different interests of some corporation and individuals.

    In my previous posting I have given a short description of situation:

    Alternatives for war

    If you look at the same thread, you will see different sources such as US Marine Corp and CIA that I have based my postings on.

    The previous thread
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    I guess that depends on what "is" is. LOL
     
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    #1299
    I thought the war was to bring the price of oil down. Darn-it just when I thought I knew what was going on!

    dern it all, i jes' do't no wat to du 'bout me ignarants, i got huk't on fonix an' it aint helpin at all
     
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    #1300
    This is a mis-information that many repeat without understanding it and it plays in the hand of government. It works like this:


    1- USA started the war for oil and it should push the price down.
    2- The price of oil has gone up
    3- The war was not for oil

    This is totally stupid, both Bush family and his friends Saudis have vast interest in oil, why the hell should they push the price down? The talk of war pushed the price up which means more money for oil companies and Saudis, also American companies will get control over Iraq's oil and sell that oil with high price. here is a posting that I did on DP long time ago with facts from energy department:


    It has been a lot of discussions about if the war was right or wrong and people calling each other names. Here is some numbers about the war and I let you decide what you think about it.

    According to energi information administration (a government office, no left organization):

    "During 2003, the United States produced around 7.8 million barrels per day"

    According to telegraph the price of oil before the talk of war could be described as follows:

    "When he indicated on Wednesday that war in Iraq was all but inevitable, the oil price climbed 48 cents a barrel to $28.27, a third higher than at the beginning of the year. The $18 to $25 a barrel range is considered ideal."

    If we consider that the production will be the same and take that the price would have been in the higher range of $25, and today price at $50(it is higher, today price is at $55) Then a simple math shows us the war is generating:

    (50-25)*7.8mil=$195 million extra profit every day just in domestic production or $71,175,000,000 /year for oil companies.

    even the energy department acknowledges this for 2004 report:

    "Financial Performance

    Twenty-four major U.S. energy companies reported overall net income (excluding unusual items) of $16.7 billion on revenues of $213 billion during the second quarter of 2004 (2Q04). This level of net income represented a 67% increase relative to the second quarter of 2003 (2Q03) (see EIA's "Financial News for Major Energy Companies "). Domestic upstream oil and natural gas production operations accounted for $6.3 billion of net income, with domestic refining and marketing operations also earning $6.3 billion. Foreign upstream oil and natural gas production operations accounted for $5.0 billion of net income, with foreign refining and marketing operations at $1.3 billion.

    Independent oil and natural gas producers, oil field companies and refiner/marketers reported a sharp increase in net income (up 75%) during 2Q04 compared to 2Q03 (see EIA’s "Financial News for Independent Energy Companies"). This increase in net income was due primarily to large increases in the prices of natural gas and crude oil, and a rise in gross refining margins of 49% year-over-year. "

    I don't think there is any need to quote any information about the relationship between Bush family and oil industry and I don't even say anything about the profit from weapon industry. Here are the numbers, draw your own conclusion.

    Sources:

    http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/usa.html


    Now make the same calculation at $70 /barrel and see how much extra profit it generates for oil companies every day. here is a hint:

    (70 (today price)- 25 (price before war))*7800000(oil production in USA)=?? extra profit /day for American oil companies
     
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