What can you suggest to stop terror?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Arnie, Jul 22, 2005.

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How should the world community deal with the Iranian NBomb threat

Poll closed May 22, 2006.
  1. Tough (in negotiations)

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  2. Tougher (sanctions)

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    6.6%
  3. Toughest (even to war)

    19 vote(s)
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  4. Other Muslim states must go against Iranians attempt too

    6 vote(s)
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  5. All of the above

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  6. Tolerance

    15 vote(s)
    19.7%
  7. Have to stock pampers first before I vote

    4 vote(s)
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  1. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #1101
    Has cyber terrorism just started?

    The server where your website is locate is currently under DDoS attack. We apologize for the downtime of your website and are working hard to resolve this issue. We will not be able to respond to all tickets regarding this matter in a timely manner, because we would rather spend time stopping the attack. More announcements will follow on the status of the server.

    Your website is safe and the data is not compromised. Any e-mails sent to you will reach you in time. The only thing that is affected by this attack is the server perfomance and the availability of the actual websites. If you notice e-mail, FTP, SSH and other services are not affected.

    WHAT IS A DDOS ATTACK

    A Distributed Denial of Service attack is a method used by hackers to overload the server and make it unresponsive. By establishing hundreds of connections each second, the offenders consume system resources beyond the server's capability. The attack is called distributed when there is a large number of computers attacking one server.

    WHAT IS BEING DONE TO RESOLVE THIS

    We are actively banning attacking IP addresses as soon as we find them out. Additional anti-dos software is being implemented to fight the excessive connections. The hackers do not have an unlimited number of machines under their control and therefore this attack will not last for too long. We expect it to stop by Friday noon (EST time zone).

    We appreciate your patience during this unfortunate incident. If you think your website might be the primary target and you know who could be doing this, please share this information. This will help us prevent future attacks.

    Anyone here with ideas?
     
    Arnie, Aug 18, 2005 IP
  2. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1102
    Secret Agent Arnie,

    What are you talking about? There is no mention in the report that they used any fake passport or fake visa. They even used their own name that was previously known to CIA as suspected terrorist but nobody bothered to put them on the list of people who should be denied entry to US.
    Most of them were from Saudi Arabia and got their visa in that country and flied to state from Saudi Arabia, do you mean they were sleeper in their own country or do you mean Saudi Arabia is part of Canada?

    I know that your life as secret agent is busy fighting enemy agents in your basement and passing hand written notes to NSA but at least read the senate report so you know what is being discussed and don't come up with this total non sense.
     
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  3. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #1103
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ladan Lashkari
    I could feel it from your posts that your attitude towards me was not very positive.


    Ladan,

    Do not dignify stupid posts with a response. Clearly this person who is "suspicious of people from your region" has not gone about asking others whether their forum id is their real/secret name. Nor does (s)he talk about their religion. Just ignore this joker. Red Repping this person seems like such a small punishment
    Other than this one person who seems to dislike everything about Iran, you will find that this forum is very open and friendly. Once again welcome to DP. You will get addicted soon

    Ajeet
    from this thread http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=24548
     
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  4. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1104

    :confused: :confused: :confused:

    What has this got to do with anything? You made ass out of yourself with your racist attitude and this guy Ajeet made a posting against it.

    Do you think that there is an international conspiracy to get the secret agent Arnie?
     
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  5. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #1105
    Why so worry now gworld?

    I've never been a secret agent or something of this sort but I did the right thing to report findings to the right place. You try to twist everything around with jokes to make it appear as soooo harmless.

    Where have I ever shown a racist attitude?
    Fortunately we are still living in a free world to express our concerns but that has nothing to do with racism. Read, digest and learn kid, thats your only chance, I'm serious now.
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #1106
    He won't answer that Arnie. He can't answer that. The rest of us know you are not a racist. gputz uses that as a cover for supporting terrorists. Common tactic...call everyone a racist or bigot. He's not even smart about doing it :D
     
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  7. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #1107
    It is sad that many people because of a hightened defence level in our personalities caused by the current state in the world, are reacting defensively :(. I was acused of being racist, which couldn't be farther from the truth but after some considered posts by all parties it was ironed out :) .

    I have a guy on my rugby forum who, if he gets backed into a corner acuses everyone of being Racists and Natzis (which is funny as we have one or two jews posting lol). Thankfully true racists show their true colours with no room for confusion as to their attitudes. There is a massive difference from an understandable leve of concern towards a certain group at a certain time (currently in the UK it is any dark skinned person carrying a backpack) which is at least 1:5 of the population of London & about 50% of the student population LOL. And someone who just dislikes all things different be they white on non white, Black on Asian, Chinese on white etc etc. That is unnacceptable in any society and why we have to fight to not allow the racists to make political capital at the expence of our integrated future.

    As SunTzu said, "keep your enemy close and your friends closer" the true enemy in all this is racism, and it eats at society like a cancer. I for one have been shocked at some of the attitudes of my friends at this difficult time. One of my friends actually said 'round them all up and send them back home' I replied "what, back home to Birmingham?" It showed how little this guy had thought about the situation. (for those not in the know, Birmingham is the second biggest city in the UK, and where the bulk of Asians in Wales migrate from) Send them back home, too funny if it wasnt so sad :)
     
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  8. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #1108
    MIAMI (Aug. 19) - A virus caused the U.S. Customs computer system used to process passengers arriving on international flights to shut down for several hours Thursday, leaving long lines of impatient travelers, officials said.

    Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said the virus impacted computer systems at a number of airports, including those in New York, San Francisco, Miami, Los Angeles, Houston, Dallas and Laredo, Texas.

    more here
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1109
    There is only one person here who is defensive, and only one person here who is calling people names. It's pretty sad if you ask me. Insecurity will do that to a person. Like you said, "when backed into a corner...."
     
    Mia, Aug 19, 2005 IP
  10. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1110
    Actually SunTzu said it the other way around:

    "To know your Enemy, you must become your Enemy...Keep your Friends close and your Enemies closer."

    But I totally agree with the rest of your sentence. We should not give in to mass hysteria and paranoia which is the feeding ground of racism and hatred.
     
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  11. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #1111
    We certainly do NOT want to aquire dangerous nuclear weapons. We've told this a hundred times that we are just looking for producing nuclear energy to use for safe purposes (e.g. producing electricity, etc.) Every country is using nuclear energy - including US - so why not us? It's our right! -quote from Ladan.

    The above quote is from a member of this forum here and I have taken this here because I think it should not be discussed on a welcome page.

    Lets assume that the intention is completley peaceful.

    1. Is there any feasibilty study about this project available? If so where is it? How much will it cost to run and how much will be the price for energy (the difference from now and then)? Can Iranians really effort it.

    2. Safety
    Iran faces a constant threat of major earthquakes. Natural disaster seem to be of so little concern. Has anyone forgotten Tschernobyl? It was just an accident and with what effect.

    3. Not every country is using nuclear energy.
    One prominent example is the nice and beautiful country of Austria. About 30 years back the goverment and lobbiest tried to convince the people that they needed nuclear power plants. People stood up against it. It was a long and heavy fight and all was fought within legal frames to hinder this project successfully.
    Guess what, - there is still light in this country and they are able to export energy.

    Other countries will not replace nuclear powerplants again and will instead chose safer and cheaper alternatives.

    4. Where does the "know how" come from?
    Was it not stolen from Holland through the father of the pakistani atomic bomb and as he admitted, sent all the neccessary info to your country?

    Irans recent order

    300 units of nickel 63 aquired with codename "Parto Namaje Tolua"
    This radioactive material sends electrons and is used in atom bomb fuzes.
    However the isotope portion (15mCi), requested by Teheran, - it requires a transport in particularly protected containers - is much too high - as to be used for other purposes than the nuclear bomb. Strange is also, under which secrecy the business was completed.


    The second business concerns so-called tritium target. They are used in neutron sources, with which the nuclear chain reaction in atom bombs can be released. Such targets belong to the so-called dual Use products, which fulfill civilian like weapon-technology functions.

    All was aquired from France via a south Korean company as a match maker...
     
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  12. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1112
    If the development and possessions of nuclear bombs are bad then why not join the nuclear disarmament movements. I think all countries including Russia, China, France, England, India, Pakistan, Israel and specially USA which is the biggest holder of nuclear arsenal should start to destroy their stock piles of atomic bombs.

    May be USA can start this process by starting to destroy it's nuclear weapons.

    Declared nuclear weapons states
    Country Number Year of first test
    United States 10,240 1945 ("Trinity")
    Russia (formerly the Soviet Union) 8,400 1949 ("RDS-1")
    People's Republic of China 390 1964 ("596")
    France 350 1960 ("Gerboise Blue")
    United Kingdom 200-300 1952 ("Hurricane")
    India 60-90 1974 ("Smiling Buddha")
    Pakistan 30-52 1998 ("Chagai-I")
    North Korea 0-18 none [6]
     
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  13. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #1113
    Positive!

    ...and truly the right way to go, but as long as so many try to develop these weapons there's a little chance and has caused a slow down in this process.
    For everyone positive to this matter, "don't give up" , you know what you have to do. "Don't give up"
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    And we have. Since the 1990's post cold war, the US and Russia have been doing nothing back dismantleing weapons, not producing them.

    We've already begun here.

    Again, we already have, and still are.
     
    Mia, Aug 22, 2005 IP
  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #1115
    Maybe the US has long since started and you were just not aware of it? Nuclear disarmament takes place daily, about 35 miles from my home.
     
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    Six months ago, I announced that the United States was withdrawing from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty, and today that withdrawal formally takes effect.

    From: 'Statement by the President', The White House, Office of the Press Secretary

    In the Bush regime's controversial document "Nuclear Posture Review" with classified sections partially leaked to the Los Angeles Times in March 2002, it was shown that the USA foreshadows the use of nuclear weapons against countries including Russia, China, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Libya and Syria. It also flagged the idea of using nuclear weapons in the Israel-Arab conflict.

    BREACHING INTERNATIONAL TREATIES:

    USA plans for Missile Defence are a threat to international security. To realise these plans, the USA will need to contravene or weaken their commitment to several key international treaty obligations, undermining international security.
    To develop MD the USA will have to break the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty with Russia. The ABM Treaty is a bilateral agreement between the USA and Russia (formerly the USSR) which bans the testing, development and deployment of sea, air, space and mobile land-based systems. Currently the USA have stated that they will walk away from the ABM Treaty in mid-2002. President George W. Bush, in announcing the withdrawal from the ABM Treaty, said, "We know that the terrorists, and some of those who support them, seek the ability to deliver death and destruction to our doorstep via missile. And we must have the freedom and the flexibility to develop effective defences against those attacks." Such a position carries with it a high price tag both in economic and social terms within the USA but also in international multilateral relationships between the USA and other nations.

    By developing MD and maintaining a nuclear arsenal as a part of the war fighting machine, the USA will be in breach of the 1970 Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). The NPT obliges the Parties to the Treaty to "pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament, and on a treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control". In the Review Conference for this Treaty in 2000 there was an international consensus for the need for total and unequivocal elimination of all nuclear arsenals.

    In addition, plans for MD would breach the 1967 Outer Space Treaty which protects the use of space for only peaceful purposes, prohibiting nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction from being placed in space (including Earth's orbit). The Outer Space Treaty is signed and ratified by the USA, UK, Russia (USSR), France, India and 58 others.

    From: MEDICAL ASSOCIATION FOR PREVENTION OF WAR (Australia)

    UNDERSTANDING USA MISSILE DEFENCE - IN DETAIL

    Mia

    It seems your posting as usual is wrong and not based on any facts.
    With such mad people in US government, is there any wonder that other countries are racing to develop nuclear weapons? :rolleyes:
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1117
    Sorry GW you're wrong.
     
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  18. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #1118
    gworld, your comments (as usual) are misleading. I suspect you will not be happy until an islamic flag is flying over the US. Your comments would lead someone to believe that the US just walked away from a treaty, but completely ignore the treaty the US signed with Russia in 2002:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/05/20020524-10.html
    This new treaty, The Treaty on Strategic Offensive Reductions (SORT), is just the latest in a long line of treaties for nuclear disarmament, as noted here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SORT

    Your comments are misleading and attempt to cover up well known and easily verifiable data that both mia and I presented.

    Your hatred for the US continues to illuminate your presence on the forum. Blame America first, and make excuses for those that seek to do the very thing you take issue with.
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    GW, remaining in the ABM would have meant the US would have to give up intentions of building a missile defense system, which we sorely need. Missile defense (though you will no doubt try to make it something it is not) is necessary as a defense mechanism only, not a offensive one. The US, a full congress, and the Clinton Admin began the pull out from the ABM, not Bush. However the Clinton admin which was in the process of giving notices as is required by the treaty ended up leaving prior to completing work they already had in motion. All the Bush admin has done is complete that work.

    What I find funny about this is there are democrats that run around a bitch and moan about the US pulling out of the treaty all the while they are the ones that were for it, and began the process of approving the pull out in the first place. Nothing gives me greater pleasure than laughing at democrats that complain about things Republicans did, only to remind them it was a democrat that suggested it in the first place.

    Either way, the ABM was way out of date and no longer applied in todays world as it once did. It would have forbid the US from establishing a defensive system on our own soil to protect us from Islamic Nut Jobs and other such whackos.

    In any event the US has been reducing its Nuclear Weapons Arsenal almost non-stop since 1990. Not an easy process mind you, but we are and have been doing it. We were the ones to suggest it, and we are the ones doing it. We are not testing nukes, nor are we building them. We are not out to blow stuff up like Ding Dong Kim in Korea, or Islamic whackos in Iran. We built nukes along side Russia for one purpose and one purpose only; so that we would never have to use them.

    You're flat our wrong, and you know it. It shows. It's pretty obvious it bothers you.
     
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    #1120
    Lots of people thought Muslim's are sperading terror but what is happning on Muslim's in Kashmir and Plastine is that is not terror by israil and india ?

    Bush is the biggest terrerest of the corrent time - yeah that's the truth - face it

    terror can only be stop by clearing the mis understanding's between different relegious
     
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