What can you suggest to stop terror?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Arnie, Jul 22, 2005.

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How should the world community deal with the Iranian NBomb threat

Poll closed May 22, 2006.
  1. Tough (in negotiations)

    4 vote(s)
    5.3%
  2. Tougher (sanctions)

    5 vote(s)
    6.6%
  3. Toughest (even to war)

    19 vote(s)
    25.0%
  4. Other Muslim states must go against Iranians attempt too

    6 vote(s)
    7.9%
  5. All of the above

    23 vote(s)
    30.3%
  6. Tolerance

    15 vote(s)
    19.7%
  7. Have to stock pampers first before I vote

    4 vote(s)
    5.3%
  1. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1021
    Show the source that says that, I quote US senate intelligence committee that clearly show you are a liar.

    Which one is it, does US senate lies or do you lie?
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1022
    You just ripped on the US Intelligence and said that the intelligence service failed. If that is the case why would you quote US Intelligence?

    Watch it with the name calling.
     
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  3. gworld

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    #1023
    The question stands, should we believe US senate or you?
     
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  4. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #1024
    Did the US Senate say none of them ever crossed over into Canada? You are arguing about their passports. Different story.

    Which is it. We want proof damnit, we want proof! How do you know they never crossed into Canada? Where is your proof that they didn't go over and talk to their pilot recruiter in Canada or any of the other terrorists hibernating there?

    Stop arguing about their passports. No one has questioned it.
     
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    #1025
    I didn't argue about their passport, the report clearly states where they got their visa and how they entered the USA. Even if it was true that they came to Canada after entering USA (there is nothing that show this), it only means that terrorists entered Canada from the US and by using their American Visa. We must close our borders, terrorists entering Canada from USA. :rolleyes:

    The question stands, should we believe US senate or mia?
     
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    #1026
    ya, true, of course their not suppose to accuse another islamic believer of their faith, or something like that. I remember my friend from pakistan telling me about this. Like if one takes their beliefs to an extreme, and even show intent to hurt others for it, their not suppose to judge them, and or condemn -supposedly. Though that doesn't help US! Since most don't come to grips, and talk to the person or neighbor which may be going in that extremist direction, or just plain out draw a clear line between each other- It wont help to defuse them from jumping the gun.

    All in all, I'm sure it can be dealt with, but it's necessary we understand the many, many methods of working out a more natural understanding towards their situation, and the middle-east communities really will need to learn how to go about cooling and calming down any advanced agression towards other countries.

    As far as defending against any attacks, well, I can't mention that here. -I think the U.K. Prime Minister had presented a very nice plan to sort of eliminate some of the risk factors of an attack.
    Unfortunately the U.S. situation is largely different, considering theres hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens getting here in many ways, and our laws are sometimes a little Too liberal in the sense that we can't properly defend a border and the countries connected to us don't give a crap when it comes to keeping people from entering the U.S. illegally. Not to mention, then you have money grubbing lawyers willing to defend the alien all the way to the supreme court, very annoying when that kind of thing happens. We want freedom, but we need people not to abuse it.
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1027
    If you want to believe the US Sentate, then you mean you also believe and support the US Senate's decision to go to war too?
     
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    #1028
    Is that an admission that US senate report is correct and you had no idea what you were talking about?
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1029
    Add quote tags in between the parts you want to quote like this:

     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1030
    Add quote tags in between the parts you want to quote like this:

    [ quote ] [ /quote ]

    No spaces in between the brackets however.
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1031
    It's the other way around there big guy. ie., Terrorists coming in from Canada to the US.
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #1032
    And you have been using that as proof they never crossed into Canada. That is not proof. Where is your proof they never crossed into Canada?

    Stop dodging questions. We want proof!
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #1033
    Maybe you can find your proof with the moon god posts you ran away from?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #1035
    I think gputz is getting mad :)

    The fact that there were other terrorists from Canada who where part of the 9/11 plot and he clearly cannot find any evidence they never crossed into Canada is upsetting him.

    I don't blame him though. If I were caught in his predictament and couldn't find any evidence that they never crossed over into Canada, I'd be upset too :D

    Still waiting for your "proofs" gworld. Why are you dodging the issue? Where is your proof they never crossed into Canada and why can't you find it?
     
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    #1036
    thanks :D :D :D
     
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    #1037
    In my opinion, from my understanding, their not coming from any single place, they just hit wherever were weak. Though the 9/11 attackers came by passport or fake passport.
    Never know for sure, maybe they had a few leg flights which brought them into canada, then to the U.S.? Honestly I've seen people come across Canada to the U.S. tons of times illegally on video, so I don't believe and never believed canada had the best of security, same goes for the US unfortunately(many of those I've seen on video coming from Canada were DRUG dealers) . If we can't keep drug dealers and their goods from entering the U.S., how do we expect to keep out terrorists which as so few compared to the drug dealers bum rushing the U.S. every day.
     
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    #1038
    The reason is very simple if you knew something about logic, you would have known that you can not prove a negative, you have to prove that they crossed to Canada. Even if this was true it only proves that our country is not safe from American side and terrorists can enter Canada from USA. :p
    Where the visas were issued and port of entry are all documented and in the report.

    Gtech, isn't dark enough yet for you to go out and burn some cross?

    Mia, I am still waiting for answer, who should we believe US senate or you?
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1039
    I'm just relying on a few high ranking democrats statements:

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) was quoted in October as saying the terrorists had crossed into New York from Canada.

    "It hurt Canadian feelings, particularly because we thought the Clintons were our pals," said Norman Hillmer, a professor at Carlton University in Ottawa and the author of a book on U.S.-Canadian relations.

    In August, Rep. Ruben Hinojosa (D-Tex.) declared to a congressional committee -- and repeated in a press release -- that "as we all know, terrorists entered the U.S. from Canada on Sept. 11, 2001, using passports that the Canadians accepted as valid despite the fact that the documents were doctored."

    My sources are high ranking democrats, one of which is currently suffering from Mad Cow Disease:
     

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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #1040
    Would that be the same logic you used regarding moon gods?

    You've still not proved they didn't cross over into Canada. Not even an effort. Because you cannot. Let it prove the Canada isn't safe. They are your buds, why would you care?

    Whatever it doesn't prove, you've not proven they didn't cross over into Canada. And until you do, you have no argument.
     
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