The latest official Washington policy if Mia was in control: Since we can not actually find WMD for every country that we like to occupy, here by we declare that we have intelligence that all these countries may be, can have or will have WMD or capability to produce WMD at present time or some times in the future and that is all we need for excuse to occupy other countries. Our intelligence is based on satellite pictures that other countries say that is a picture of Hot Dog but our experts that agreed to testify under pressure from white house have all agreed that these hot dogs can in reality be small size nuclear weapons that are being exported to other countries that we like to occupy under cover of being hot dogs but because we know Muslim don't eat pork and it is common knowledge that Hot dogs have pork in it, we have decided that it can only be nuclear weapons. By the way did I mention that Muslims don't like dogs and that is another reason that we should occupy them.
This was covered on page 26 of the topic. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=22153&page=26 The actual post: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=252107&postcount=253 NYTimes: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40712FC3E580C708DDDAA0894DD404482
Just for the record http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7634313/ http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/12/wmd.search/
"There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us," Vice President Cheney said in August 2002. Six months later, Secretary of State Colin Powell made the case, including satellite photos, to the United Nations. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld scoffed that even "a trained ape" knew it was true. This week, The Washington Post reported that the U.S. has quietly ended its search for the weapons. Inspectors scoured Iraq and interviewed Iraqi scientists for months. They spent millions of dollars — the amount remains classified. The result was unchanged from the searchers' previous reports: They found nothing. No nuclear program. No stockpiles of biological or chemical weapons. End to search for WMD WASHINGTON — Wrapping up his investigation into Saddam Hussein's purported arsenal, the CIA's top weapons hunter in Iraq said his search for weapons of mass destruction "has been exhausted" without finding any. Nor did he find any evidence that such weapons were shipped officially from Iraq to Syria to be hidden before the U.S. invasion .................. The Bush administration justified its 2003 invasion of Iraq as necessary to eliminate Hussein's purported stockpile of WMD. "As matters now stand, the WMD investigation has gone as far as feasible," wrote Charles Duelfer (search), head of the Iraq Survey Group (search), in an addendum to the report he issued last fall. "After more than 18 months, the WMD investigation and debriefing of the WMD-related detainees has been exhausted." From the official Bible of all hate groups: Fox News Duefler's CIA report said Saddam had no WMDs: "Saddam Husayn ended the nuclear program in 1991 following the Gulf war. ISG found no evidence to suggest concerted efforts to restart the program." "While a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered, ISG judges that Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991. There are no credible indications that Baghdad resumed production of chemical munitions thereafter..." http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_200/Comp_Report_Key_Findings.pdf But this is just stupid report from CIA and ISG, what do they know about intelligence and state of weapon production in Iraq when we have such a reputable experts such Gtech and Mia on this forum.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/4/27/164917.shtml Twenty Tons of chemical WMD. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/13/international/middleeast/13loot.html Why would we continue to search for something that was looted/moved? Where did Zarqawi, who was in Iraq prior to the invasion and training people in chemical weapons, get 20 tons of chemical wmd to blow up Jordan? Saddam never made any promises to keep WMD where they could easily be found, did he?
Gtech, I understand that you consider CIA probably a Muslim terrorist sympathizer organization but don't you think these quotes are a little ridiculous: "In a confession broadcast on Jordanian television, the unnamed WMD conspirator revealed: "In Iraq, I started training in explosives and poisons. I gave my complete obedience to [Abu Musab al] Zarqawi," the al-Qaida WMD specialist whose base of operations was in Iraq." "BAGHDAD, Iraq, March 12 - In the weeks after Baghdad fell in April 2003, looters systematically dismantled and removed tons of machinery from Saddam Hussein's most important weapons installations, including some with high-precision equipment capable of making parts for nuclear arms, a senior Iraqi official said this week in the government's first extensive comments on the looting." Who is the unnamed man and how much torture before the statement? Do you mean USA invaded Iraq because an unnamed man was going to do a chemical attack in Jordan couple of years later? Who is the senior Iraqi official, can it be the same Talabani who is wanted in Jordan for bank fraud and was the key player for USA in Iraq before he was suspected to pass information to Iranian? I agree with you Gtech, how can we believe the CIA when we have access to such a good unnamed sources?
I supposed we could just pretend those 20 tons of chemical wmd zarqawi attempted to use against Jordan were just imaginary, right? Last year, the World Tribune published an report that covered how UN Inspectors concluded saddam shipped WMD out of Iraq before and after the invasion. http://cshink.com/united_nations_inspectors.htm The original from the World Tribune's archives: http://216.26.163.62/2004/me_iraq_06_11.html which was based on the following UN report: http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/new/documents/quarterly_reports/s-2004-435.pdf In which is reported: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8080407 How could something that didn't exist, be missing, gworld?
Why should I consider them rediculous? Zarqawi admitted he was behind the plot: http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1700195,00.html So just what were those chemical WMD that zarqawi admitted to being behind in the Jordan plot? None other than VX: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04123/309356.stm So, here's a recap of what we have: 1) UN discloses that WMD was exported out of country before and after invasion. Gee, no wonder we couldn't find anything 2) Zarqawi was in Iraq prior to the invasion. (but, but, but there's no connection to al qaida and Iraq ) 3) Zarqawi admits to chemical WMD plot in Jordan. 20 tons. 4) The type of nerve agent the chemical wmd had was VX. 5) Iraq produced VX.
The Iraq had 12 years time to set up a hide and seek game for their WMD. When I nearly got softened up on that issue it was an Iraqi friend, who was directly under Udais and Saddams command for Palace jobs, saying that nobody knows where the WMD is hidden but it was a fact for everyone there that they existed. Now, do you think they had access to western resources about that issue? He brought me back to reality again. Thanks God.
Julian, I feel so sorry for you. I have made it a point to pray for you every day. Please learn to read. If I told you that we landed on the moon, you would find a way to argue against that as well. Your comments are silly at best. Your points are laughable. You have added nothing to this thread but hatred, and some of the goofiest statments I have ever seen. You have certainly surpassed anything Anthony could have ever said here by a factor of 10. For the record since you are acting like a 3 year old again, not all Hot Dogs have pork in them.
On the dog front, this is taking time to research. My Grandfather was OSS. He passed away some years ago. I did live with the man for several years and heard many interesting stories, though this was not one of them. He was finally awarded the Bronze Star, and a few others medals from both the US and Italy after he died. That said, I have several contacts and other OSS survivors and families to look to for this information. I've made it a point to. It certainly would not surprise me. Of course the US uses animals for everything from drug sniffing, to bomb sniffing. However, my point was that it is sick to think that someone would use a dog to send in place of a suicide bomber. I hardly think there is a comparison between that and using dolphins to aid ships at sea, or horses to ride into battle, etc. Utimately the real point was the fact that Muslims value the life of a dog like they do anyone not muslim; they don't. They would use a dog to commit mass murder. What Julian suggests is that the US used cats in the same way. The US NEVER (to my knowledge) used ANYTHING, human, animal or thing to commit mass murder. Even the atomic bomb was not used to commit mass murder. When the US resorts to something like this, it is to save American lives, not to commit mass murder for allah. There clearly is a difference. Julian knows there is a difference, he just does not care.
"I did not have sexual relations with that women Monica Lewinsky" President Clinton "I am not a crook" President Nixon "I am a Jelly Doughnut" President Kennedy What is your point? All the VP did was rely on our own intelligence. An agency sucked dry and stripped down by the Clinton admin. Either way, who the hell cares whether there were or not WMD's? I mean really. I suppose having a raping, murdering, geocidal mad man in power in Iraq again would be better? The real WMD was Saddam, and we DID find HIM, and he is now GONE! Next.. Do recall that after 9/11 Bush had the CIA and the FBI re-organized. The problems caused by the Clinton Admins meddeling where solved and both organizations were completely overhauled. Information is only as good as the source.
Also during WWII, the American Army used what they referred to as tankdogs to destroy German tanks. Dogs were taken away from their mothers as soon as they were weaned, and were only given food under the bellies of tanks. Once on the battlefield, the dogs, scared and on the verge of starvation, with explosives tied to their backs, would run to the underbelly of a German tank. Once there, American soldiers would detonate the explosives on the dogs' backs, destroying both tank and dog.The Russian army to this day employs similar tactics with dogs.Donkeys and mules have also been used as bomb-carrying devices.
I don't know what the quote from Kennedy got to do with anything but both Nixon and Clinton lied, so are you admitting that Bush, Chaney and Rumsfeld lied too? In your defense Rumsfeld said that : "a trained ape" knew it was true. so it is reasonable that you and Gtech still believe in these BS. I don't think American would have accepted the excuse that some body was going to fire a Saddam toward USA or take him to NY and blow him up as a weapon of mass destruction as a reason for war. How many worse mass murder has come to power or are still in power thanks to CIA and American foreign policy? Historically since WWII, mass murderer dictators have been USA's best friends in different countries.
You're so funny. Just listen to youself. Do you ever read what you wrote? You should really be a contributor to Snopes gw..
they were trying to http://historynet.com/ahi/blbatnbirdbomber/index1.html Thats why we dropped 2 so close togather, on military targets .... Please everyone knows now the war was a mistake, they are going to pull out troops because american people can't stomach it, all the people who where gung ho, before are starting to change their minds the elections will come and soon people will vote for whoever says they will pull the troops out, then the insurgents will, tear whatever iraqi army there is up
Ah no. I said "mass murder". When it comes to defending freedom and saving American lives? There is a clear difference. The US has never intentionally sought any method of any kind with the specifc intention to commit mass murder to irradicate human life. There is a big difference between the wilful intent to extinguish life and defending freedom and ending wars. What is so hard to see here? We dropped two because the first one did not convince Japan it was time to end the war. The second one seems to have convinced them. It is estimated some 450,000 American lives were saved in the process and the war was brought to a close 5 years eariler than anticipated. It's that simple. Who knows what? I don't think the war on terror is a mistake. The only people that do either already felt that way, or have changed their mind for the sake of politics. There are still others that just have nothing better to do than bitch about it. There are yet others that would use a women's grief (Mikey Moore and the Pink crowd) to shame the service of an American soilder defending freedom. War is a terrible thing, but it is often times necessary to preserve life for future generations. We are in for a long haul. The war on terror will last a long time. To pull out is to surrendor to the terrorists. If that is what you want I strongly suggest purchasing a plane ticket and defecting to a terrorist country so you can live out the life that offers so much more.
Who died and made you the boss? If you believe in democracy then if any one should leave the country is you and your friends since the majority support an end to this war now. I am sure that there are many countries in Africa, middle east and part of former east Europe that support and welcome your brand of hatred, torture and infinite imprisonment with open arms.
We're not the ones disappointed saddam isn't still in power. We're not the ones that want the terrorists in Iraq to take over the country. That's what I call *real* hatred. We know who you want to win and why. Who died? Close to a million Iraqis, under saddam. Since when were you a part of "our" country?