mia did not say you did. Re-read the post and note where mia never said any such thing. What he noted, and rightly true, was: Stop turning words around. We know what you are doing.
Gtech, I don't even know why I even bother to answer you when it is obvious that anybody who posts such a stupid thing does not have the mental capacity to discuss anything intelligently. Is this the proof and argument for your statements that anybody who asks for proof is an enemy agent? Talk about paranoia, no wonder you admire your Buddy senator McCarthy. Are you saying that you can not provide argument for Allah moon God because of national security?
I don't know why you bother either. Your response had absolutely nothing to do with what I said previously. It must be terribly taxing on you to come up with off-topic replies to avoid what others say. Nope, I'm saying that when we look at your hatred for Israel and Jews, the persistent attacks on Christianity, you defensiveness of islam and terrorists, coupled with your statements that terrorism is about poverty (which isn't true) and all the other factors in your posts, coupled with your intentional deceptiveness, throughout this long thread where you've only demanded proof when islam is in question and attempted to deceive others, that it's clear what you are doing. There's plenty of argument for moon god. Both mia and I have introduced it. You've simply choosen to condemn it without controversy and discussion. In fact, you condemned it (something you don't believe in, right?) before either of us posted strong links regarding the subject. I must say, I had no less expectation. That is what you had planned all along, correct? To defend it from post one? Like you tried to defend non-believers as being atheists only? Any more questions? What other "proofs" can I provide for your demanding soul?
I would bring up other "moon god" type items, which would lead us in another circle where gworld defends islam yet he says it is bogus and outdate??? I really liked Gworlds response to Mia, it shows what I keep on saying: he isn't reading what is written, he seems to assume things are said and goes with it, like a mad man on some sort of rampage. To some degree I think he ignores my posts because his level of education is way beyond mine. Interesting that being so well educated can get in the way of reading word by word and/or comprehending???
I did not condemned any of yours or mia's arguments about this subject yet. I simply said that you can not expect me to accept a text from an unknown bible web site as absolute fact and posted questions to determine the authority and facts that you base your statements on, but since you are just a parrot repeating what you have heard from some one else, it became too much for you and you started with your name calling again. My suggestion is that you contact the people behind those web sites to participate in this forum, so at least there will be some one on your side that has some idea of what they are talking about. The reason that I discuss the moon god, new testament or anything else for that matter is not the defense of Islam but to show how weak are the principals that you have based your hate ideology on. I am knocking down one by one the faulty legs that your ideas of hate and intolerance are standing on.
Must you resort to lying, every post? http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=266414&postcount=717 You condemned the whole idea before it even took off. Why must you lie, so consistently? So prepared to defend it, you were defending it before it even needed defending! Please post a "bullshit" warning. I was drinking some Dr. Pepper and almost spewed You mean you're not defending islam? OMG, how could we have not seen it? So when you responded to this in sheep's wool: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=199843&postcount=30 You were just protecting "us" from the truth here: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=200268&postcount=41 Let me guess, over here it was "Be nice to a Jew" day so you chimed in: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=199715&postcount=8 Who do you defend and who do you attack? Defend: islam Attack: US, Israel, Jews, Christianity. Hmm...
I said that I did not condemn your arguments since you have not provided one yet. I said that your statement was a BS and I stand by what I have posted since contrary to you, I am knowledgeable in these topics and your statement was contrary to any reputable source but I gave you a chance to present your arguments if you have any and you refused to do so possibly because of "national security". The first link is correct and I invite everyone read my post and make their own judgment. The second link is your usual BS, so I can not have any responsibility for your BS. The last link in your posting to one my posts is about a state of Israel and not against Jews. I have stated a list of facts about state of Israel, I challenge you to give a reputable reference that contradicts one of the facts that I have stated in my posting.
I have to agree. It's hard to take gworld seriously on anything when he consistently lies about everything.
Back to the Original Concept of this Thread.... Reading through all of these posts one could easily see why Terorism is at it is . However War , Greed,Murder,Rape , Pillageing , and ignorance is the cause of all this .Simply put ;there should be no reason for any person; be it a child or Crimanally insane to go hungry or uneducated on this planet, and untill we as Humans (not color of skin )understand that we are not the most inteligent beings in the Galaxies that we ponder to try to see . If Christians ,Budahs,Islams,Catholics,and all the many denominations and believiers would work for their TRUE CAUSE in which none of those condone starvation disease and ignorance would simply work together .....duhhh . Since recorded History as we are privy to has started these problems have existed and will continue until the end if not remedied by intelligent beings.... be it of our own or our Conquerer's. We pay Teachers less than we do a Congressman and who makes a diff on you more ???? Lawyers and politicians seem to do ok as our kids are shooting each other in the schools where they should be learning to become Lawmakers and Teachers or something in the way of a contributor to society ....go figure....ok I am leaving the Soap Box enjoy your life while you still can and keep driving with your Head Lights on (Instigated a few years ago ) cuz it causes your car to use More Fuel .........
If you do not believe in Allah, how can I possibly be expected to find proff that he was or wasn't a moon god?
the·ol·o·gy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-l-j) n. pl. the·ol·o·gies The study of the nature of God and religious truth; rational inquiry into religious questions. ar·chae·ol·o·gy or ar·che·ol·o·gy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ärk-l-j) n. The systematic study of past human life and culture by the recovery and examination of remaining material evidence, such as graves, buildings, tools, and pottery. my·thol·o·gy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-thl-j) n. pl. my·thol·o·gies A body or collection of myths belonging to a people and addressing their origin, history, deities, ancestors, and heroes. A body of myths associated with an event, individual, or institution: “A new mythology, essential to the... American funeral rite, has grown up†(Jessica Mitford). The field of scholarship dealing with the systematic collection and study of myths. Dictionary.com In none of these definitions I can see anything mentioned that personal opinions of the person who is studying or discussing it as anything to do with it, do you?
Now the pictures is getting clearer Interesting answers to my question and hopefully will serve you as well. The US secret service CIA asked the Dutch government in the seventies not to arrest the nuclear scientist of Pakistan, Khan. The Netherlands arrested him because of espionage. Khan is considered as the father of the atomic bomb of Pakistan, - former prime minister Ruud Lubbers of the Netherlands reported in a radio broadcast from today. Khan was charged of atomic espionage. Netherland set Khan free in 1975 and 1986 intentionally after a CIA request. The CIA prevented an arrest in order to observe the suspect further. The CIA agents used one of their usual tactics: "Give us all information and do not arrest Khan. We will follow and observe him and uncover further details ". "I had doubts that that was the correct way." said Lubbers. The American secret service did not comment at the statements so far. Abdul Qadir Khan is considered as the father of the atomic bomb in Pakistan. In the seventies he stole information from Netherlands enrichment factory URENCO in ALMEO after he had access for years to confidential informations. The infos were about building ultra centrifuges. He used the confidential infos to enrich and to develop nuclear weapons in Pakistan. Khan admitted, that he had passed on the informations to Lybia, North Korea and Iran last year. Pakistan accomplished 1998 for the first time an underground atomic bomb test. In the eighties, Khan ordered and bought nuclear material from german, netherland and french traders, according to "New York Times" investigations. He ordered more centrifuge parts then he needed for Pakistan and sold the surplus to Iran.
I thought Capt Kirk and the Enterprise blew up Khan in the Mutara Nebula and thus created the Genesis planet?
Until now and from my own observations I always felt strange about the American-Pakistan relationship. Hope that America will clear their mistakes ASAP to get back on track again. It's a kind of dangerous not to clear it without bringing it to light. I believe Bush has the guts to stand up. I also know about Americas fear of Indias nuclear power, but this should not be an excuse.
What the hell does this have to do with anything I said? Is English a second language to you? What does my statement you quoted have to do with dictionary definitions? I was asking about how I could provide you proof when you choose not to believe in anything we have been discussing? Instead of simply answering the question you do a copy/paste of definitions from dictionary.com. What are you trying to say? What is your point? You have completely lost me. When you post to this thread is it possible that your fingers are moving faster than your brain can command? It often times seems like a lot of your thoughts are left out of your posts. You are never on subject, you never reply directly to a comment, nor do you take the time to answer simple questions. We cannot read your mind. I am going to assume that there was more to this post that is just lost in the translation.
You are correct in that assertion. As a matter of fact I am certain of that as "The Wrath of Khan" has been on HBO all this month. Live long an prosper!
I see the people of Pakistan and the government as almost two separate entities. A complex relationship. Pervez Musharraf seems to be taking great strides towards dealing with terrorism and "doing the right thing." Although he recently said that even if they did know where bin laden was, he would not allow his capture on Pakistan soil. Regarding your observations, I'm not finding any sources, searching various quotes in what you posted, so it's hard to comment on.
While you are studying, add this to your curriculum: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibd/20050805/bs_ibd_ibd/200585issues . . .