What can you suggest to stop terror?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Arnie, Jul 22, 2005.

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How should the world community deal with the Iranian NBomb threat

Poll closed May 22, 2006.
  1. Tough (in negotiations)

    4 vote(s)
    5.3%
  2. Tougher (sanctions)

    5 vote(s)
    6.6%
  3. Toughest (even to war)

    19 vote(s)
    25.0%
  4. Other Muslim states must go against Iranians attempt too

    6 vote(s)
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  5. All of the above

    23 vote(s)
    30.3%
  6. Tolerance

    15 vote(s)
    19.7%
  7. Have to stock pampers first before I vote

    4 vote(s)
    5.3%
  1. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #181
    You should try leaving Wisconsin once in a while. There are actually decent people all over the world.

    You might become less angry and more tolerant of other people's beliefs and practices.

    :)
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #182
    I'm not from Wisconsin orginally. I have been to all 50 States with the exception of Alaska and Hawaii. I have been to Italy, France, England, Scotland, Ireland and St. Lucia. Most of my Family is from Italy and Germany, interesting mix.

    Rob, I'm not angry. And no, I am not going to be tolerant of terrorists beliefs. It is your type of ideology that relies on complacancy that got us into trouble here in the first place.

    You do know about the war right? There is a war going on. "beliefs and practices", you mean blowing people up, spreading hatred. Oh yeah Rob, I'm gonna be real tolerant of that.

    Sorry, you really do not have to "get out more" to realize that people who kill in the name of a false god have no place on this earth with people who are peacful and doing nothing other than trying to breath free air.
     
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  3. Henny

    Henny Peon

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    #183
    Hey now, I am in Wisconsin too, We have to put up with more than our fair share of liberals up here dammit :D Also, I am not angry, I am perfectly happy! We are kicking ass and taking names, Bush is president, Roberts is about to be named to the supreme court, what.... ME ANGRY??? HAHAHAHAHAHHA, I am delighted!
     
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  4. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #184
    What tolerance you're talking about?:confused:

    I have two Iranians(actually three with the baby) here which converted recently to Christianity. Both come from rich families. They had to escape Iran and are living now under refugee status with a very little support from the UN.

    They are not able to go back. Their parents said if they would change to Islam again they might return, but if not, they will be killed as soon as they attempt to enter Iranian territory, slaughtered right at the airport and no authorities would go against that.
    The young woman replied: Islamists are animals and that she would under no circumstances return to Islam and rather die before become a Moslim again.
    Yes, they are happier amidst the material problems they face for this time.

    Pray for them that they may not lose their faith.
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #185
    And I love it here! I moved here almost 20 years ago and love it. I love freedom. I love the fact that I have always been able to park my car in front of my house with the doors unlocked. Sometimes with the keys in it. I'd kinda like to keep that freedom here.

    Just a little factoid. Wisconsin is the birth place of the Republican party. Now if we can just get Doyle out next time around :)
     
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  6. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #186

    What does that have to do with anything I've said? :confused:



    That's exactly what we're doing. Only we call it "spreading democracy."

    Do you really think that by invading Iraq we've intimidated Muslims into accepting Israel's expansion for a greater homeland? Or do you think it's filled them with anger and frustration?

    If your family was in their beds sleeping and a bomb was dropped on their heads, would you be angry?

    I realize that there are TWO faces of Islam and that many muslim teachers are spreading hatred of the Infidel West. But that's no different than what many Christians are doing here.

    So they hijacked airplanes and killed thousands because of people like me?



    PS: I love Wisconsin! ;)
     
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  7. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #187
    Rob, I have to ask where you get this from
    You aren't talking to A/C are you? This is stuff that the white suppremist or islamic terrorists would like everyone to agree with. I say kick all the palistinians back out to their original countries (ask them where they are from - search family trees to see what I mean) and let Israel have they land back - all of it....
     
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  8. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #188
    I didn't say they're justified or that I agreed with it. But like it or not, it's the truth!
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #189
    What war are you talking about? The war against Iraq officially ended 2 years ago.

    Who are we at war with? If we are at war, does this mean that prisoners in Guantanamo bay are POW and we are breaking the Geneva convention?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #190
    If there was a prize for stupid posting, this would have won the first prize. Israel did not exist until after the WWII, so the present Israel belonged to the Arab population but your sentence makes sense if you reverse the Israel and Palestine since the majority came from Europe and the rest of the world.
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #191
    Mia, I think Rob is right. He's on to something here that I've never considered before. We *should* be more tolerant of head chopping in Thailand. We should be more tolerant of those that preach death to the infidels in their mosques in western countries. While we're at it, lets give them welfare and lots of flexibility to plan other terrorists attacks on us. Why should we interfere with their right to blow us up? How insensitive can we be? Matter of fact, those that are living the high life at the Gitmo Marriott with food better than I eat...we should let them all go. Apologize for interferring with their rights to kill us. Offer them $100,000 each, throw in some free explosives and a few 747s and wish them the best of luck in their journeys. As a gesture of good will, let's offer them some free flight training lessons, all expenses paid. We simply didn't understand their needs to kill us, and that's our fault for not being tolerant of their beliefs.

    We should be more tolerant of stoning women to death in Iran. After all, it was the woman's fault for being raped. Let's let Saddam go. He only killed a million or so of his own people. I mean geez, it's not like he and his sons killed everyone. Only a million or so. He wasn't a bad person, he just did a few bad things. But look at all the positive things he did. He gave lots of money to France, Russia, Germany, China and many other countries. He gave oil vouchers to UN employees so they could provide for the future of their families. He was very kind to palestinians. Through is insight, kindness and caring, one his own, he noted that they needed money for their suicide bombers. Where others looked down on their actions, Saddam was the champion for their cause and provided 25k for them. He was kind to the Syrians. He donated lots of WMD to them. Some of them were even used in a failed plot on Jordan, but hey, they deserved it, right? A swell guy he was, we just don't see all the good things he accomplished. Why I bet he'll be up for a Nobel Peace award in no time at all.

    We should be more tolerant of genocide in Darfur. After all, they are just killing some old Christians, they deserve it. How else would the killers get to heaven, if not taking out a few Christians, Jews and Buddhists along the way? We should be more tolerant to those blowing up the US, Israel, Spain, the UK and other parts of the world. We must learn to be more tolerant towards Palestinians. All they are doing is blowing up a few Jews like their good book tells them too. Who are we to interfere with their right to secure some virgins at other's expense?

    Which tinfoil conference do I sign up for so I can learn to be more tolerant of those whose religion calls for my death? I want to support a young lad's trip to a Pakistani Madrass so he and others can come back to western civilization and share their multiculturalism with the rest of us. We could learn so much.

    I want to covertly learn to support Hamas and Hezbollah like the noble members of CAIR do. I want to setup charities for victims of major bombings like 9/11 and divert those funds to terrorist organizations for a good cause.

    Where do I sign up?

    :rolleyes:
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #192
    I don't know, I think Debunked has a valid point. Are you referring to the times before islam was created, or after they took everything by the sword?

    I thought islam was about peace and tolerance? You mean they aren't tolerant of Jews? Is it true that I can't hang Christmas lights in Saudi? Does tolerance work in only one direction?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #193
    As I mentioned before, I think most of your posts are somewhere between stupid and moronic, well you raised the bar, this is extra, extra moronic. I am talking about after WWII (if you don't know, this is the war between 1939-1945), do you mean Islam was created after WWII? Israel as a country did not exits before that.

    If they don't tolerate the Christmas lights in Saudi, why don't you complain to your president after all the Saudi royal family and Bush family are such a close friends and are even business partners in different companies.:rolleyes:

    [​IMG]

    By the way, what was the nationality of the most 9/11 terrorists? Saudi Arabia
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #194
    :D Just found this
    You Blew Me Up You Bastard.Com
    If you're killed by an act of terrorism, the newspapers and television stations will use whatever photo they can.

    From graduation...
     
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  15. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #195
    Is it even possible to be MORE tolerant? What exactly are we doing to stop it?


    Gtech, I'm able to differentiate between terrorists and Muslims. You are not! So I wouldn't expect you to understand.
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    As I mentioned before, I had no precoceived notion you wouldn't. We both know why, right? ;)

    My bad, history didn't exist prior to WWII. There was never an Israel before and Jerusalem from historical times is just a figment of our imagination. Any mention of Israel prior to WWII should be eradicated from our minds. I get it now :rolleyes:
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #197
    Everything. It just goes to show that people who are faced with terror every day of their lives and the teaching of terror will do most anything to escape it. God bless them for that. Freedom is a valuable thing.

    ? Are you confused. You do realize we are at war right? Yeah, the US Military is sending suicide bombers into Muslim homes, buses, subways (if they had them), buildings, planes, etc., ok. Are you ok? You do pay attention to the world around you right? You realize that there is a war going on?

    Ah, no... I was paying attention that day. We are there to remove a dictator, which we have done. We are there to restore democracy, which we have done. We are there to protect freedom for everyone, which we continue to do. Perhaps you need to leave Chicago for a little bit, there is a much bigger world out there you know :)

    Of course, and that is what has happened. You do remember 9/11 right? I had no less than 6 family members working in the WTC, and one driving the trains, his second stop of the morning was WTC 1. Until you wear another persons shoes you might want to rethink supporting terrorists, which is what you are doing.

    You can't be serious. Oh yeah, I forgot about those Catholic Extremists. Those nutty Baptists that just suicide bombed a Jewish deli, or what about those really crazy Born again Christians... They are the worst. So full of hate, and killing in the name of Jesus. Even the Scientologists are at it. They have hijacked Tommy Cruise and have forced him to fly paper airplanes with saran gas.

    Get real man. There is a big difference here and I think you know that.


    Your way of thinking. Being passive and complacent. Yes. Had we been on the offensive like we are now, it never would have happened. Had we not had a president that entertained Irish and Muslim terrorists in our own White House, it never would have happened. Had we not torn down our miilitary in a Carteresque fashion, never would have happened. Had we not disbanded all of our CIA operatives, you know, the ones that killed bad people behind closed doors back in the cold war days, it never would have happened.

    This way of thinking disolves freedom. Just ask most of Europe that stood idly by and let Hitler take over their countries, all because they did not think they should be involved.
     
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  18. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #198
    Yes, your admirable differentiation capabilities shine through almost as much as your overwhelming tolerance for those doing the deed.
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #199

    The War on Terror. Where are all of you at today? You do remember that there is a war, right? We've been at war with Terror for almost 4 years now. Remember when our president addressed both houses of congress and the American public and said, "we are at war, a war on terror. we will find the terrorists where ever they are, and we will seek them out and bring them to justice. We will seek out the terrorists AND THE NATIONS THAT HARBOR THEM."

    Sound familiar? Remember? There are no Geneva Convention violations occurring in GITMO. It is a prison, yes. Always has been. Not just for war criminals but for our own military. It is not a pleasant place. It is not supposed to be. Even for those who live and work there who are not prisoners, it is not a pleasant place.

    I'm sick and tired of the bitching about GITMO. The media and muslim sympathizers want everyone to believe the crayon (spelling) was desecrated there, flushed down the toilet I believe?

    NOT POSSIBLE. No one, I mean no one would have had a copy of the crayon (spelling). They do not even issue bibles to prisoners. When you are in prison in GITMO you get NOTHING. Nothing to read, nada, nothing!

    My dad was stationed there for several years as a Marine. He paints a much different picture of GITMO than the news and muslim sympathizers would have you believe. It's all bullshit! It's a prison. It is not a pleasant place. It is the end of the world even for those that work there.
     
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  20. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #200
    You're a real piece of work!

    BTW- One in every four humans is Muslim.
     
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