What can the atheists offer the rest of the world???

I have a feeling he wont be around very long. I'm surprised he made it this far.
I'm yet to see him contribute anything worthwhile.

 

Are you his suck-up partner or something? Gotta kiss ass whenever you get the chance, huh? Shut up, seriously.

 

I think everyone is just thinking "It's not worth talking to that dude because he's going to get banned before Monday."

 

Nice observations...only person so far that knows what they're talking about. And why would I be banned anyway? The point of this board is to have debates, duh.

 

You know which button to press then if my posts bug you. At the same time I must say I am a little puzzled: I don't quite see where I'm insulting someone's belief.

Is this the political corectness forum? As I understand it political corectness is a new form of dictatorship: only those views that meet our criteria (political corectness) are the ones that will be tolerated. So go ahead and press that button. It may even be a blessing in disguise for me since I will waste less times in here.

Even though, I don't see how I broke any rules. Unless political corectness rules of course.

 

Start here:

 

Once again you know which button to press to have me ejected from here. But I must say, from not agreeing with atheists to insulting them you must show me a better post than that.

English is not my first language so help me here and show me a post where I insulted an atheist. Come on the dude is telling me that I must respect the atheists and I say I must not. Is that an insult?

I have my fair share of opponents here and if I remember correct I have never debated directly with you. I have debated with others. And YET I have not receiven an infraction before other than for a BUMP in a contest here at DP. So I am sure if others felt insulted, just like you they know which button to press.

I leave it up to you to show me my example where I insulted atheists.

 

Perhaps this will make more sense to you if I quote Crazy_Rob instead of Shawn.

You are directly attacking my religious beliefs.

Please stop.

 

"I'll get you my pretty! And your little dog too!"
"Well, I'll get the ACLU!"
"..."
"*cellphone* Told you I would. I'm reporting you for harassment and for not respecting my religion by wearing a witch outfit!"
"...but you're..."
"Hello.... Dawson?"
"GET OUT! GET OUT OF MY HOME! NOW!"

And thus ended the Wizard of Oz, shorter and faster. Although the showing time is still the same because of commercials.

 

Proteindude still seems convinced that we want to tear down his beliefs, rather than the fact we just want them out of government. This reminds me of the thread about spreading lies to justify wars; Christians like proteindude are claiming we are crushing their religion when we ask to remove religion from government, it's a false flag to justify their actions and condemn ours. We atheists are a measly 1-2% of the population, who's crushing who's beliefs when your enormous lobby turns the laws of this nation from secular to Christian?

 

I see that HouseOvaries is banned for his bizarre posts.

I bet the moderators are in a big meeting right now to determine who to ban next.

Proteindude and I are both on the list.

It doesn't much matter to me either way -- I gotta stop wasting time in P&R and get my lazy butt back to work!

 

You got to start somewhere don't you? First remove references to God from government, then from schools, then from coins, then remove them from courts, etc, etc. And you still can't see it that your purpose as an atheist is to ultimately delete all references to God. It may not be your goal but your desire, even though at the moment the ACLU seems like they're doing a good job.

For once I see myself agreeing with you. If I get banned I think it will be a blessing since I will waste less time here and spend it on more useful things. Anyway, if that happens it's been a pleasure

 

Wouldn't the more accurate statement be.
Christians are forcing their beliefs upon others, first going against the constitution and ADDING references to god?

 

So you wouldn't have a problem with having "in Allah we trust" on your money? or is it only your god people should should be forced to reference on their money and outside courts?

The hypocricy of the christian, It makes me want to vomit.

 

I find it funny that you bring up coins, when you still maintain that you would not allow an Allah coin, but you would allow an alien Dobsy coin. Let me extend that a bit. How about "In Buddha we trust", "In Thor we trust", "In Vishnu we trust"? The point is you don't support a coin with these figures because they represent a religion you don't believe in, and as such, a figure you don't believe is your creator. That is precisely why the atheist also does not support "In God we trust". We don't believe in God, or his role as our creator.

To what you said earlier about not attacking atheists, you are wrong. The new rules prohibit disrespect for another's religious beliefs. I'm an atheist, and as such, I believe Christianity is false, along with every other religion. But when I debate and talk on these boards, I still treat it with respect, and I respect everyone else's right to believe in whatever they wish. If you don't like the belief, think it's wrong, think it's vile, that's fine; but you WILL, at least in your words, not disrespect those beliefs, or you'll end up banned.

EDIT: All atheists have ever done is push to separate religion from government. And not just atheists have done it, people of many different beliefs have supported this idea. What have Christians done? Christians have continually pushed for their agenda, ideals, morals, and values to be legislated as law in this country, restricting the personal freedoms and beliefs of other religious groups. You want to talk about starting somewhere, the Christians have shown continually, particularly through the power of the religious right in the last few elections, that they intend to make their values as the only acceptable values in our country. Who's doing more harm?

 

Yet a person raised Christian, who's family is fully christian, who does still attend christian events supports you and other atheists on here "I'm not the only one' and you post 'hypocricy of the christian' as in all of us are the same.

Kind of exactly against the point of arguing that not all atheists are the same, but all christians are?

 

So you do want all references to God removed, even though you're not there to banish religion. Huh??? Not only you want them removed but you're militantly going after them wherever you find them to fully eradicate. And you're still telling me you don't want religion banned??? Come on now.

Regarding the constitution show me the part where it says: "No reference to God must be made in courthouses, government, coins, public schools, public land, etc." It's a bit like: "The Constitution does not prohibit gay marriage." I agree, in a sense it doesn't say that and yet I don't think anyone in their mind thought that at the time you had to put that into the Constitution.

And regarding beliefs and so on: I believe my religion/belief is the correct one and everyone else's is wrong. It goes by logic: we can't all be right. If that earns me a ban so be it. It's not that much of a deal. I still maintain I haven't insulted anyone on these forums.

 

Protein I already gave you links
What part of the 'in god' being added do you not follow? What part of 'god' does not belong in the government do you not understand?

It is not getting rid of god, it's having it seperate from the government.

I swear you're like talking to a brick wall.

 

Dude, take it easy. I understand what you're saying. It doesn't mean that if I don't agree with your views you are talking to a brick wall. It just means I don't agre with them. On what hand you're saying atheists don't care and on the other hand I see those dudes who can't find anything better to do with their time and money than waste time and fight to remove all references to God from the public life. So who is trying to force their beliefs on the rest of us? Since the atheists are a minority, shouldn't the minority listen to the majority?

If you have the minority in control it's a dictatorhip. By banning Christmas and removing the 10 commandments from court houses, who is there trying to disprove, to eliminate the other one's belief?

 

proteindude:

I am an Atheist and I am not in any way tearing down your beliefs -- yet here you are tearing down my beliefs.

I am not in any way "making sure your beliefs don't matter", and yet you are vociferously attacking my religion.

What gives? How is it that you consider this acceptable behavior?

I will once again quote Crazy_Rob:

Do you see how you are attacking my religious beliefs?

Why are you doing this?