What are your thoughts on Islam?

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  1. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #121
    You sound EXACTLY like stox - is this a duplicate account?

    Lie? show me where I lied about anything.

    Muslims were part of the S.S. and neo-nazis do align themselves with islam. Just go to their website. (sorry I don't remember the site - I will try to find it for you.)

    Here is a start for your education - muslim S.S.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #122
    OK, I watched that part. So he thinks that? Can you show proof? Like I said I don't know the guy, but as far as I know he is a TV Evangelist with money on the brain. He wasn't reading scripture on that part, not sure if he ever does, common practice amongst the TV evangelists - not to.

    But I would ask you on what authority does he claim this? Are there some documents to prove what he says? Sure the catholic church stood by, that we can see. They didn't fight hitler and even seem to have taken sides with him on some occasion, yet for the most part just seemed to have stood by and pretended nothing was happening - which is just as bad in my book when people were being slaughtered!
     
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  3. Aceday

    Aceday Banned

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    #123
    WHAT ABOUT THE 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% WHO WERE CHRISTIAN, THIS IS A REGIMENT OF 300 PEOPLE! LOL.

    Im not stupid enough to blame Christians for WW2! But blaming Muslims is just retarded.

    Also, yes please find this website, NEO-NAZI's have crosses tattooed on their bodies and hate nearly everyone.

    I have never heard of a SLOX, ANYWHO CAN U JUSTIFY 400 YEARS OF SLAVERY OF AFRICANS, i have heard christians try to justify it by saying sick things like, Slavery brought africans to jesus, it was good.

    Look whats your problem, you just want confrontation and those in GLASS houses shouldn't throw stones, you lie to yourself more than anyone.

    Let us examine how the bible deals with the rapist:

    (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 22:28)
    Dont tell me some crap about NEW and OLD testament, what so GOD chnaged his mind? EVEN THO JESUS SAID, i have not come to change the law!!!!
     
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    #124
    your lack of contextual understanding brings me to question your own understanding of your own book.
     
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    #125
    VERY laughable, PUT SOMETHING SO SICK INTO CONTEXT FOR ME THEN!

    I DARE YOU TO JUSTIFY IT, GO ON! Personal attacks are just a sign of weakness!

    Its saying if your daughter gets raped, sell her to the rapist! Justify for me, maybe i am mistaken?
     
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    #126
    Good call there.

    Everyone knows that Hitler got his ideas about the Aryan master race from Islam and that the muslim's were part of the Nazi S.S.

    in fact leaders of the Palestinians were invlovled in the Holocaust.

    muslim S.S.
     
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    #127
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  8. debunked

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    #128
    OH, I see you are the typical islamist sent here to DP to try and confuse people....

    You think everyone in the USA or Germany were/are Christians.... lol

    Do you know that even though 70% of the people in the USA mark christian for their religion, that probably more than half just mark that because they use to go to a church as a child? probably not.

    You are confusing non-muslims with Christians. Just because they aren't muslim does NOT make them Christian. Christian is one who follows Christ. It has nothing to do with a country, politics, religions, etc...

    And then you copy and pasted another verse from answeringchristianity.lie or such didn't you? What will be next? ooooh the suspense.
     
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    #129
    it is very simple really if you think about it all the nazi germany at the time were christians so the christians did it. and they all went to church and the church approved it by its silence. now you want to wash your hand.
    by the way why don't some christians talk about love and peace as a message?
     
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    #130
    That would explain you comments about christianity

    please read your justification is here http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/ot_and_rape.htm
     
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    #131
    WHERE IS THE LIE, IS IT NOT IN YOUR BOOK? and btw i live/born here in the west, YOU JUST CALLED ME AN ISLAMIST BECAUSE I SHOWED YOU THE EVIL OF YOUR BIBLE.

    Open ur book to Deuteronomy 22:28 and tell me its not there.

     
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    #132
    Ive respnded above with a link to an explanation, i am not familar with that verse so i had to research it a little
     
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    #133
    Sam shamoun is lying, its a habit of his, even if it says lie with, SHOULD THE GIRL BE SOLD LIKE A PIECE OF MEAT?
     
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    #134
    in those days muslims had very similar laws, am i wrong? Actually i dont think they had been invented yet
     
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    #135
    You might want to read the Hebrew used and not one English translation. The word for rapes in English has different meaning than that used in Hebrew. You will see that it talks about 2 people having sex who are not married - not the act of rape. It is consensual - so they both are doing wrong. Unlike beheading a girl for letting herself get raped. You will see the punishment for rape also listed in Deuteronomy.

    Does the search for moral relativism ever get old?
     
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    #136
    Hitler got the idea for Mein Kampf from the Koran and Jihad.

    Hitler's connection to Islam is documented through his association with the Palestinian leader El Mufti Al Husseini. Al Husseini's brand of radical Islam and Nazism have in common anti-Semitism, quest for world dominance, demand for the total subordination of the free will of the individual, belief in the abolishment of the nation-state in favor of a "higher" community (in Islam the umma or community of all believers; in Nazism, the herrenvolk or master race), and belief in undemocratic governance by a "divine" leader (an Islamic caliph, or Nazi führer).

    The Arab/Muslim Nazi Connection - Anti-Semitism and Holocaust
     
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    #137
    By calling him a liar, doesn't make it so. You know the truth but deny it. The one you are copy/pasting is lying to you and you are unwilling to even check it out. You fall for the lies, yet they are easily debunked.

    moral relativism at its best. head-chopping = ??
    killing jews = ??
    killing the raped girl = ??

    What's next?
     
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    #138
    you know ive been a member here for a while, and ive tried to avoid P&R topics, because there are never any winners. All sides think they are right, and if they didnt they would never admit it. Christianity has its problems, but so does islam, neither religions is perfect. But overall they both wroship the same God. We should all love one another, and be greatful we have a God that loves us.
     
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    #139
    I respectfully disagree, the God I serve does not ask me to kill people, in fact quite the opposite. He laid His life down for me and told me to do the same.
     
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    #140
    Lol, i dont need to offer anymore proofs that the bible is corrupt, you already accept it, I JUST FIND IT RIDICULOUS HOW YOU CAN ATTRIBUTE THE BIBLE ALMIGHTY GOD.

    HERE ARE Some of MY POINTS, then im off to sleep,

    Deuteronomy 17:3-5
    Leviticus 20:27
    Numbers 31:17
    (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 21:7-8)
    Deuteronomy 20:13-14
    Hosea 13:16 (New Living Translation)
    VERSES THAT CONTRADICT THEMSELVES
    Genesis 6:3 and Genesis 11:11 - Life limited to 120 years?
    Genesis 32:30 and Exodus 33:20 - Jacob's life was preserved?
    Exodus 4:22 and Jeremiah 31:9 - Who was God's firstborn?
    Numbers 23:19 and Genesis 6:6-7 - Does God repent or not?
    2 Samuel 6:23 and 2 Samuel 21:8 - Did Michael have children?
    2 Samuel 8:4 and 1 Chronicles 18:4 - 700 or 7000 horsemen?
    2 Samuel 8:9-10 and 1 Chronicles 18:9-10 - Toi or Tou? Hadadezer or Hadarezer? Joram or Hadoram?
    2 Samuel 10:18 and 1 Chronicles 19:18 - 700 or 7000 charioteers? 40,000 horsemen or footmen? Captain's name?
    2 Samuel 24:1 and 1 Chronicles 21:1 - Who provoked David?
    2 Samuel 24:9 and 1 Chronicles 21:5 - 800,000 or 100,000?
    2 Samuel 24:13 and 1 Chronicles 21:11-12 - 7 or 3 years?
    1 Kings 4:26 and 2 Chronicles 9:25 - 40,000 or 4,000 stalls?
    1 Kings 5:15-16 and 2 Chronicles 2:2 - 3300 or 3600?
    1 Kings 7:26 and 2 Chronicles 4:5 - 2000 or 3000 baths?
    2 Kings 8:26 and 2 Chronicles 22:2 - 22 or 42 years old?
    2 Kings 24:8 and 2 Chronicles 36:9 - 18 or 8 years old? 3 months or 3 months and 10 days?
    Ezra 2:65 and Nehemiah 7:67 - 200 or 245 singers?
    Matthew 1:12 and Luke 3:27 - Who was Salathiel's father?
    Matthew 1:16 and Luke 3:23 - Who was Joseph's father?
    Matthew 9:18 and Mark 5:22-23 - Dead or not?
    Matthew 10:5-10 and Mark 6:7-8 - Bring a staff or not?
    Matthew 15:21-22 and Mark 7:24-26 - The woman was of Canaan or Greece?
    Matthew 20:29-30 and Mark 10:46-47 - One or two beggars?
    Matthew 21:1-2 and Mark 11:1-2 - What happened to the ass?
    Matthew 26:74-75 and Mark 14:72 - Before the cock crow once or twice?
    Matthew 27:5 and Acts 1:18 - How did Judas die?
    John 3:16 and Psalms 2:7 - Only begotten son?
    John 5:31 and John 8:14 - Was Jesus' record true or not?

    Matthew 15:21-28
    A few from many Verses THAT CONTRADICT THEMSELVES:
    Matthew 1:12 and Luke 3:27 - Who was Salathiel's father?
    Matthew 1:16 and Luke 3:23 - Who was Joseph's father?
    Matthew 9:18 and Mark 5:22-23 - Dead or not?
    Matthew 10:5-10 and Mark 6:7-8 - Bring a staff or not?
    Matthew 15:21-22 and Mark 7:24-26 - The woman was of Canaan or Greece?
    Matthew 20:29-30 and Mark 10:46-47 - One or two beggars?
    Matthew 21:1-2 and Mark 11:1-2 - What happened to the ass?
    Matthew 26:74-75 and Mark 14:72 - Before the cock crow once or twice?
    Matthew 27:5 and Acts 1:18 - How did Judas die?
    John 3:16 and Psalms 2:7 - Only begotten son?
    John 5:31 and John 8:14 - Was Jesus' record true or not?

    (Matthew 7:21-23)
    (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 26:39) (Why would God need to pray if Jesus was God?)
    WHAT KIND OF GOD PRAYS TO HIMSELF?!!

    (From the NIV Bible, Mark 12:29)
    James 1:13
    Matthew 4:1
    This has nothing to do with wether he sinned or NOT! It clearly says GOD cannot be tempted, JESUS WAS TEMPTED by the devil accorrding to your book!

    Hebrews 4:15

    Mathew chapter 4
    BUT the SCARIEST THING:

    The devil doesn't know who GOD is? Would the devil really take ALMIGHTY GOD and tell him to worship me?????
    IS HE TESTING HIS CREATOR who banished him from the garden of eden?

    Its Sick to even attribute such a thing!

    Matthew 21:18,19

    HOW CAN YOU READ THAT AND STILL CLAIM HE IS GOD - THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING IN IT, WHEN HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WASN'T THE SEASON OF THE FIG TREE!


    Stop deceiving yourself ;)

    Qu'ran [5:073]
    [004:171]
     
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