STop accusing me of lies, i never reported anyone to any mods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are an imbecile, your the one who changed the subject when i told you Jesus cursed those who cast out demons and make prophesies in his name. Because it refers to non other than yourself. I mean you worship someone who told us not to call him 'GOOD', how could someone like you understand the concept of 'different cultures' and 'changing times'. According to your logic most of CHRISTIAN rome and the Byzantine empire were pedophiles, this is how deluded you are. AND btw
My infraction was in response to your posts. That is why I thought it was you. Admittedly I have no proof it was you. Anyway, it doesn't bother me because standing up for the truth is more important than getting an infraction. Mohammed is supposed to be an example to all human kind, or at least to the Arab world. So if he did it, why can't others do it. Brrrr...just thinking about it creates fear in me: a poor innocent 8 year old girl and a mature man.
Yes the Greek for church just means assembly. I have been a member of quite a few however, and in my opinion the problem lies in the amount of people. Very seldom can a question be asked, a pastor could not possibly answer everyones questions. Biblically, they met in homes. Small groups. Which made it easier to learn. Furthermore on institutional churches, we are also asked not to give rank in the church Mat 23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. Mat 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, [even] Christ; and all ye are brethren. Mat 23:9 And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Mat 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, [even] Christ. Mat 23:11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. Mat 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. We should not have ranking officials in the church, We have only one master. The men with the most knowledge are not there to lead but to serve. The should not retain a ranking name, that would put them above the rest. This is my belief.
There seams to be a lot of incidents. The laws in these countries are very backward and place the blame on the victim. A French 17 male was raped by three men in Dubai and authorities raised the possibility of charging him with criminal homosexual activity. United Arab Emirates law does not recognize rape of males, only a crime called “forced homosexuality.†Legal experts in United Arab Emirates say that men convicted of sexually assaulting other men usually serve sentences ranging from a few months to two years. “They tried to smother this story,†Alex said by phone from Switzerland, where he fled a month into his 10th-grade school year, fearing a jail term in Dubai if charged with homosexual activity. “Dubai, they say we build the highest towers, they have the best hotels. But all the news, they hide it. They don’t want the world to know that Dubai still lives in the Middle Ages.†http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/w...en=a89b7518628ebf83&ex=1194062400&oref=slogin You need to educate yourself. The terrorism awarness has a informative presentation on the facist muslim / nazi connection http://www.terrorismawareness.org/islamic-mein-kampf/
Right... i think the US actually has the highest rates of rape and molestation in the world - should i blame it all on Christianity then, i think not... your deviant logic is somewhat lacking in the field of differentiating between peoples actions and an entire religion. Rofling... Your kinda tad brainwashed, david horowitz, such an impartial source lol just keep telling your self Muslims carried out the holocaust, lol I like you bogart, your posts all ways give me a good chuckle loooooling.
In The Islamic Republic of Iran a woman that is raped can be charged with adultery and stoned to death. Yeah and the President of The Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is big on denial. Islamic countries actions speak for themselves.
From what u have said and replied proteindude, you are right your ignorance does keep you from accepting or keeping an open mind. Even though you allegedly started this thread with a good intention to be taught otherwise you seem to dismiss quicker than acknowledge what is being said, I also find it hard to believe one who has already admitted ignorance and in no doubt arrogance to accepting such teachings or thoughts of the Islam religion (doesnt mean u need to change faith or religion just to agree to disagree and be mutually happy that one has a belief system in there life ) will have a clear mind to do so. There are many quotes in the Koran that are meaningful however can be distorted in the eye of the beholder. That is the problem with religion you are either with or against if you are a true believer no other religion is going to sound right or believable or teach a new perspective (except in the eyes of an atheist because then they can see good and bad things in all religions) As for the word new you ask what has the Koran taught as in terms of new as compared to the new testament....that is impossible to compare because the Koran has not changed it's outlook or re organised to make a new koran - which also provides a valid point if you believe in your following and teachings why would you need to change wording and re publish a new testament, shouldn't the first be valid enough if it was handed down by your god?
WOW, instead of giving me some greater teachings from the Koran you just go on and on about how ignorant I am Is that what you're supposed to do when given the opportunity to quote from the greatest book ever written according to Islam? I must say, so far I am not impressed with the great quotes I received. To me, for a prophet to be greater than others, he would have to show his superiority: better and greater teachings, more miracles, more devotion to God and fellow humans. So far NOTHING quoted to me from the Koran proves its superiority.
Christianity , Islam and Judaism , tend to be "one way" overaggressive, imperialist and intolerant ( in their worst aspects - when driven by fundamentalists of any persuasion ) Wonderful art and architecture in ancient Islam , also marvelous poetry . Islamics as a people and culture have been able to leave side by side and at peace with their neighbors ,this is true in many parts of the World including the US and Australia ( for instance) They tend to have a rich personal culture. Islamics need to stop the radicalization of their own religion by fundamentalists ( as do all the major religions)
Your Lord has commanded that you worship none but Him, and be kind to parents. If either or both of them reach old age with you, do not rebuke them, but speak to them in terms of honor and kindness. Treat them with humility, and say, 'My Lord! Have mercy on them, for they did care for me when I was little'. (Quran 17:23-4). thats something you can teach your kid “Righteousness is not that you turn your faces to the east and the west. But righteous is the one who believes in God, the Last Day, the Angels, the Scripture and the Prophets; who gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to kinsfolk, orphans, the poor, the wayfarer, to those who ask, and to set slaves free. And (righteous are) those who pray, pay alms, honor their agreements, and are patient in (times of) poverty, ailment and during conflict. Such are the people of truth. †(Quran 2:177)
I am sorry I thought you were aware of your ignorance I was just making a point that you are there asking for information and still belittling anything given to you , nothing is going to sound right or even acceptable to those who have a closed mind already - imo...
Take this as you wish but here's my dilemma: I don't know whether you agree or not, but Islam seems to be the most violent religion ever. Let's agree for arguments sake ALL religions are bad and so on. Why do you think Islam is the worst of all? Or why do you think it's perceived as being the worst of all?
Richard The Lion heart Massacres The Saracens, 1191 What Follows is an Eyewitness account of a Massacre of Muslim people by the Christians. The eyewitness, Beha-ed-Din, was a member of Saladin's court and (along with much of the Saracen army who watched from a distance) witnessed the massacre of 2,700 of his comrades: "Then the king of England, seeing all the delays interposed by the Sultan to the execution of the treaty, acted perfidiously as regards his Musulinan prisoners. On their yielding the town he had engaged to grant their life, adding that if the Sultan carried out the bargain he would give them freedom and suffer them to carry off their children and wives; if the Sultan did not fulfill his engagements they were to be made slaves. Now the king broke his promises to them and made open display of what he had till now kept hidden in his heart, by carrying out what he had intended to do after he had received the money and the Frank prisoners. It is thus that people of his nation ultimately admitted. In the afternoon of Tuesday, 27 Rajab, [August 20] about four o'clock, he came out on horseback with all the Frankish army, knights, footmen, Turcoples, and advanced to the pits at the foot of the hill of Al 'Ayadiyeh, to which place be had already sent on his tents. The Franks, on reaching the middle of the plain that stretches between this hill and that of Keisan, close to which place the sultan's advanced guard had drawn back, ordered all the Musulman prisoners, whose martyrdom God had decreed for this day, to be brought before him. They numbered more than three thousand and were all bound with ropes. The Franks then flung themselves upon them all at once and massacred them with sword and lance in cold blood. Our advanced guard had already told the Sultan of the enemy's movements and he sent it some reinforcements, but only after the massacre. The Musulmans, seeing what was being done to the prisoners, rushed against the Franks and in the combat, which lasted till nightfall, several were slain and wounded on either side. On the morrow morning our people gathered at the spot and found the Musulmans stretched out upon the ground as martyrs for the faith. They even recognised some of the dead, and the sight was a great affliction to them. The enemy had only spared the prisoners of note and such as were strong enough to work. The motives of this massacre are differently told; according to some, the captives were slain by way of reprisal for the death of those Christians whom the Musulmans had slain. Others again say that the king of England, on deciding to attempt the conquest of Ascalon, thought it unwise to leave so many prisoners in the town after his departure. God alone knows what the real reason was. " References: Beha-ed-Din, his account appears in Archer, T.A., The Crusade of Richard I (1889); Gillingham, John, The Life and Times of Richard I (1973). There is many theories and many guesses as to who started what , who killed who for what...the point is we are talking centuries ago. Now doesn't religion tell you to believe in "your god" and at the same time be accepting of others beliefs as long as it doesn't deter you from your own belief - that in the end you will be shown gratitude through eternal/after life? So by believing this then it should not matter, your hate or discomfort in any other religion will be glorified in their death than acceptance into another life ( are you seeing my point ) By saying one religion is better than another isnt going to eradicate the past but fuel further stereotype and bigotry, which is what is happening currently. I would not say Islam is the most violent or the worst of all, but I would say it is the most perceived religion as being violent. In all honesty every religion is violent, every religion lives by moral code etc etc.... It's just unfortunate in todays society that we haven't learnt yet to accept every religion has a right to be heard regardless of own belief.. and move on. And on another level has it crossed your mind that Islamic belief is hated more than any other because of the ever growing number of followers/converters amongst the obvious ?
Well, if Islam is not the most violent which one do you think it is? Or which one do you perceive it to be the most violent? I think this point refers mainly to Islamic countries. Islamic nations are the most oppressive to all other religions especially when compared with nonIslamic countries. How many churches in Saudi Arabia did you say there are? From what I hear Islam IS the fastest growing religion. I have no accurate figures but I believe this to be the case. I don't think this is the reason it's the most "hated" to use your words. The question was why do many think it's the most violent? Is there any basis for this belief?
Richard The Lion heart Massacres The Saracens, 1191? That's a 1000 years ago. Someone drew a cartoon of muhammad and look what happened in the modern world.
May Allah (swt) reward you, but bro, it's not worth it with some people. This guy will never see the truth if it slapped him in the face.
Another dude that defends a fully grown man who claims to be the greatest prophet ever who takes a little 8 year old girl as his bride. No wonders some followers are so messed up A fully grown man and an 8 year old little girl and this guy is the greatest prophet ever