I dont go looking at women on the beach you imbecile, i was frickin joking!!!!!!!!!!! Showing you what a hypocrite you are. In islam there is something called, lower your gaze. Modesty in attire is something we do BECAUSE prevention is the best cure.
You can try and turn it around now but hey It's a little late now. Should not surprise me though. How old was Alisha when she was married to you knwo who? And I am not joking when I am asking you this question.
I don't understand why these kind of useless threads keep coming up in forums which don't lead to anything except flaming each other and disrespecting each others religion. Why are people interested in other religions than their own as I think if each one follows its own religion properly according to the rules laid there would be peace all over the world and remember that God or Allah or whatever name people would be addressing the Almighty with doesn’t have a religion. People should do something more constructive and worth while than just discussing the same old things again and again which lead to nowhere but which only increases the hatred, misconceptions and false impressions for each other as no one who discusses all this stuff is a scholar here of their religion so misconceptions and misunderstandings are bound to happen IMHO.
Turn what around??? You insulted muslim sisters who CHOOSE to be modest, you didnt want your daughter to be modest and then got upset when i TRICKED you into admitting being half naked on a beach is a source of lust. More than anything you show yet again to not follow your book because your a hypocrite, you think christian women wore bikini's to the beach 100 years ago? So now you realise your stupidity, you take a shot at Islam, what a surprise. Now the prophet married Aisha according to the custom of the times, life spans were much shorter and its common in arabia for girls to enter puberty at the age of 8. THIS WAS COMMON PRACTICE ALL OVER EUROPE AT THE TIME, we are talking over 1 and a half thousand years ago. Child brides as young as 8 were common among ROMAN emperors and nobility: http://www.roman-emperors.org/aggiefran.htm Aisha, may GOD be pleased with her was and STILL is one of the greatest scholars of Islam! Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was not a child molester as the haters of Islam claim. He was a Noble Messenger of God. Muhammad peace be upon him lived in a society and culture that existed 1400 years ago. So please proteindude, dont make such false accusations. Also you called me a pervert...... David watches a women bathe, likes what he sees, and "goes in unto her." 2 Samuel 11:2-4 Let me ask you a question, how old was mary when she gave birth to Jesus?
Your taking many things out of context and using them to bash the bible, not cool, We worship the same God. If you think we are wrong about something you should take it to him in prayer, as should we.
I agree, tho I dont mean to bash the bible and im not taking out of context but im just responding to proteindude's lies and assertions, i think he's a compulsive liar, i would never start a thread for the purpose of bashing a religion, which is what i think proteindude's intention was for this thread and his one about the Quran. Really insecure guy, thats for sure.
I understand, but theres an old saying, Two wrongs don't make a right. Many people did things wrong in the bible, just because it is mentioned does not necessarily mean its condoned.
Ahh but you are all for allowing proteindude to bash others religions using the same mentality. Sure appears that way. What would you do if someone started a Christian thread such as proteindude has done, would you not be enraged? Possibly to the point of bashing more than you would as you're simply pissed off someone is pissing on your religion? Certain people have no respect or ability to understand others simply to not believe as they do. The thread starter is a perfect example of such. I see it, even when you have come off to be possibly extreme under normal circumstances I can easily see as I'm not blind you are simply trying to protect your faith. Proteindude is doing nothing more than trying to bait you though, trying to drag out a fight between religions. He gets off on it, he has shown to have simply no ability to understand those who do not believe as him are not evil. I think he is seriously threatened by you and others who are not christian. Personally the only religious threads I think are 'ok' are for those to actually learn about other religions. You do not have to practice a religion to learn about it. It appears certain people only wish to twists of facts though for their own agenda, not anything of substance.
Grim, if you look at other threads with aceday you will see that he seems to be at DP to continue to spread myths by copy & pasting stuff from an anti-Christian site. Every time he posts a verse from the Bible it is either used out of context or he uses one that has been twisted or added to in order to give it meaning that it doesn't have. So by coming in this thread and "defending" him, you actually look like you are agreeing with his tactics of lies and fables.
I'm not allowing anything, i saw a false insinuation about the bible and i defended it. I dont know proteins intentions. If someone started a thread about my religion with the intent to cause rage, i would object with the facts what i know to be true, and not twist the truth to prove them wrong. If you notice when i first posted in this thread, i was not very happy with Muslims. That was due to the fact, when i hear the word Muslim, i think terrorist, and thats not due to my government, but to the terrorist claiming to be doing Allah's work. The terrorist give Muslims bad names. Once i found out that Muslims believed close to the same thing i did. Then i accepted it as that.
What other thread?!! The JW one, YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT ISLAM, not me, dont lie. And you make up lies that we are allowed to lie for our religion and some other crap. Now i feel like proving im not taking stuff out of context by talking about the bible, because this is your only argument btw. Anything not nice.... 'Oh its out of context'. But i cant be bothered because you and pdude are just thick headed or something, really. Im NOT the one starting threads like, 'what would the world be without the bible'
Dude, if anyone reads the verses you quoted in context they can see how you try (yes, try) to twist the meanings to fit your agenda (or the site you copied it from.) You know you are taking verses out of context OR you are completely blind or mislead by the site you copy from. Don't try and play innocent, just tell people to go back and read your posts, oh, should I add the PM's you sent me to a post for others to read what you wrote? Like I said, it would make you look bad. By calling me a liar, and people being able to go back and read my posts and find no lie, it would clear me now wouldn't it? I may not be perfect, but I always purpose to tell the truth and I think there are many here that would have to agree even if we disagree on other subjects.
lol childish, make me look bad?? I was polite throughout actually... I just sent these 2 quotes: 1 Kings 22:21-22 How can it be an evil spirit asking for permission, when he is succeeding in enticing that guys men to lie by GODS command! Philippians 1:15-18 You cant deny paul was happy either way. ------------------ Firstly i don't need to take stuff out of context to prove the corruption of the bible..... Catholic Bible = 73 books in total Protestant Bible = 66 books You think the bible is preserved? Maybe im biased? Bart D. Ehrman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_D._Ehrman Interview: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1401540kmr5NmWT --------------- Jesus not God right from the bible: Numbers 23:19 Yet Jesus called himself Son of Man all the time. Luke 7:34 Luke 22:48 God called the prophet Ezekiel "son of man" 93 times, so it is clearly a term for 'prophet'. IS THERE SOME DEEP CONTEXT BEHIND IT or am I making it up, I DONT THINK SO! --------------- Dont talk to me about truth, you wouldn't know truth if it was a shovel hitting your face.
This gets soooo old... You constantly add more things to the list to go over and disprove or correct by putting into context. Is this something all good muslims are taught to do? Anyone reading this who actually is falling for what he is copy/pasting, do a google search on those verses and read both views. One side you will find a view that shows the verses in context and in a modern English translation to show the words we use today to retain the original meaning, since the English language changes over the years. For example: gay use to mean happy, now it can't be used in its old way or you will be greatly misunderstood. For those who are wondering why I just don't explain it here... I can go one by one - already have before - and show what each verse means in context of the chapter it was written in and all you would see as a reply would be another list of verses copied from a hate site. It doesn't end, and being one that learns from experience, it would be a waste of time. Just search this forum and others and see this is a common practice. The poster of the verses doesn't want to be taught, they only want to cause confusion by posting lies and twisting truth.
this is a perfect example of you taking things out of context God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: Basically he is saying he can not lie, and he need not repent. He is not saying god is not man
Don't bother, his purpose is to confuse people, not to learn. He pulls this off of a hate site that lies to serve its purpose. Typical.
Right............. So God just decided to put that in the bible to confuse us, tell us he is Not the son of man and then come down and constantly proclaim being the son of man. Oh ya that makes sense. Sorry for having logic.
But thats exactly what he is saying: Numbers 23:19 Its flat out not man or son of man, jesus said he was son of man many many time, not once or twice.
You obviously do not understand english, read the rest of the sentence and tell me what the main idea is. notice the comma, it means thats not the end of this idea
Sure, whatever. Logic would be reading it in context and not breaking up a sentence to make it mean what you want it to. So much for muslims agreeing with the Bible, or was that just another lie? Seems to me that the whole basis of islam is lies, lies to achieve you goal, lies to keep you safe and you kill others, lies, lies, lies..... Sad isn't it. Try reading a sentence correctly. Do you know what a comma means? It isn't a period, if that helps. Now read the verse even with its sentence structure. God isn't a man, that he should lie. God isn't man, in that he isn't a sinful person. Jesus isn't Man. He is more than just Man, He is God within a human body/ or flesh. He is still all God, He just chose to live without His glory and to live as a Man. Shoot, what am I doing??? wasting my time on one who does not care to learn, but one who lives lies, spread lies, and is a liar by default.