Don't worry NC, when the old lady kicks you to the curb, I will get you a job on the construction crew. We could use a guy to dig out the footings for the buildings, 295 lbs, damm son you could move a lot of dirt. You should have never told the old lady about the legal contract, now she will get rid of you and take everything
I wasn't going to come back to this thread, but had to respond to this. Actually, I have lived in four different countries for extended periods. I've seen what the rest of the world is like. I think that America is the best country in the world because of my experiences living in Eastern Europe and Western Europe. This is why I am so worked up - because I have seen firsthand what life is like in other countries. I do not want my children to grow up in a world where there are free-speech zones and where they can't get birth control because the pharmacists have a "personal objection" to handing it out. Yeah, that is now happening in America - check out the news. Me stop watching TV? You don't even know me, but it's typical when someone is not using logic to make assumptions about somebody. Guess what? I'm not even a Democrat. Now I would like to apologize to everybody for getting so upset. I just wish that one person in this thread who made the statement that homosexuality is not "natural" would please respond to my initial statement about the Bonobo apes, our closest genetic relative in the animal kingdom. Of course, that was totally ignored, which is why I went off on Christians and the way they view animals. Somehow that animal topic went off track. Perhaps you don't believe the Bonobos are really multisexual? You can't deny facts. Now here's the thing: Bonobos use sexuality for much more than procreating. This is the fundamental difference in the opinions here, I think. Some (not all) Christians seem to believe that sex should only be for procreating. It's not. For the Bonobos, it is a means of bonding and becoming part of a community. Read here: http://www.dailycardinal.com/news/2...uality.Adds.To.Gay.Rights.Debate-605235.shtml The thing is - no Christian will answer the question about the Bonobo because it isn't in their script on what is and isn't accepted. It drives me nuts when people repeat things like parrots but don't look at logic and facts. Please, I really really want to know what a person who believes has that homosexuality is not natural has to say about this. Fact is, it is natural for us to be sexual. Life is more complicated than sex=children and nothing more. Thank God.
Until I see a monkey turn into a human with my own eyes, people are my closest relative. If you want me to treat them like humans, then what they are doing is wrong to, according to the bible. Just because the monkeys do it, people should do it? Crazy..... You never hear a Christian say "well, the monkeys are doing it, lets do it too....." If that were the case I would be flinging my dung at AC all the live long day... Sorry for the sarcasm, but the real reason I did not respond is because I find the monkey into man idea totally insane. If we really did develop from monkey's there would be more "in betweens". Right now, we have man and monkey. You can say it takes millions of years, but there would still be the in betweens happening. I find it sad that people would be more content in believing that we came from other animals than a higher being creating us. I apologize to you Chiara if I offended you in anyway.
I'm no historian, but I think this generalization may be a little inaccurate. From what I understand, for many eras in human history, love was not a requirement for marriage. Often it was a arranged by the parents without very much consent on the part of the future spouses. From what I hear, it hasn't been until quite recently that people began to marry for love. So I would say that marriages are less than simply a "damned legal agreement" in our modern world than they were in previous eras where they were an agreement between families (often involving a dowry or bride price). I found this rant of your to be quite humorous and entertaining if not only tangentally related to the topic. I never suggested that same-sex couples can procreate. I'm not sure where you're getting that. Why would I even want to argue that given that we all agree that ability to procreate is not a condition for being allowed to marry?
Anthony just needs to find himself a nice woman who will show him there is such a thing as love and that everything isn't about money.
Well, I guess the 98.4% of DNA we share with them was just a coincidence, then? Why can't a higher being have created us and THEN we turned into animals? I hate to break it to you, but we are animals, like it or not. What I find sad is that some Christians can't believe in any ideas that don't fit into their ideology. For example, most scientists agree that there is probably life on other planets. Most Christians say that's not possible because God wouldn't have created more than one planet full of people. I just don't understand it. Anyway, I'm sorry if I have offended you, too. It's clear that we're just living in two different worlds and we would never be able to come to agreement about much. That's okay. Difference is good.
Chiara, sounds like you and NC could end up on a date soon Think the old lady would let you fix her computer NC?
Id see "What's the big fucken deal, bitch?" (South Park) Gays are gay, so why can't they marry? They probably ante about to change, so wtf? Another reason I'll support gay marrige is bc I'm gonna have one.
Can't have a thread like this without me throwing in some good old NZ facts, after all this thread has seemed very American till now... time of day or what? We're technically a secular country. We have some interesting situations where Christian priests lifting tapus and blessing the Maori Gods and think nothing of it. We legalised homosexuality back in the '80s which meant that my sister in law (who I didn't know then) could live with her current partner without fear. 20 years later they're still together and more married than most! It was odd though to say you can have a relationship but it's not as good as "ours". Who can judge the level of emotional connection between two people and say which is most valid. Those 2 with their 20 years versus Britney with her quickie wedding & annulment in Vegas. One might be legal in the USA and more "socially acceptable" but I know which has more substance. Last year we introduced 2 new laws. 1 changed the laws about what was a de facto relationship and under some circumstances you don't even have to live together and you'll still be going 50/50 when you break up. The second law allowed civil union. Both laws have increased the protection of gay couples. We've had horrific situations where one partner has been in a serious accident and the surviving partner hasn't been able to consent to medical care because they're not legally next of kin. Some have been restrained from visiting and in some cases family have removed all possessions after death because a will hadn't been drawn up. There was something in the papers recently that civil unions haven't been very successful in the gay community, and I suspect that's because they're a watered down version of the real thing, and also because the first law has provided the protection previously only offered under marriage. I totally "get" what people say about marriage being about procreation but I fail to see homosexuality as a bad thing and as such would prefer to see stable relationships ratified.
Gay marriage is a sin an an abomination. As a church member and after viewing Passions of the Christ I know that Jesus did not die for your sins so gays could get married. Gays have civil rights like everyone else but that doesn't entitle them to marriage.
If Jesus "Died for our sins", and homosexuality is a sin, then didn't Jesus die for that as well? Wow a Mel Gibson Movie did all that for ya huh? Did you even bother to read any of that book you put so much faith in or did you just decide quoting "The Lethal Weapon" would make us all bow before you for the true theologian that you apparently are?
Look at his sig outside this thread - He is trying to promote his Passion of the Christ site. I don't believe he is actually religious (look at his past posts)..There was someone similar here a few months ago that preached their religious belief yet flamed people for no reason with obsenities, etc Look at the source
I don't get what that means. Is there a connection between Russia and same sex marriages that I'm not aware of?