What a Women Wants???

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  1. DeniseJ

    DeniseJ Live, Laugh, Love

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    #21
    Women are not always looking for a new guy... I certainly don't fall into that way of thinking. A lot of guys I know, however, can never figure out what they *REALLY* want... they want to be able to have their cake and eat it too. Sorry, I just don't work that way. If a guy wants to be in a relationship with me, then he's in a relationship with ME and better be 100% faithful or I shall kick him to the curb.
     
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    #22
    some woman are always looking for a new guy, more attention etc

    a fair amount of woman are straight gold diggers, they are even raised that way

    some mothers drill it into their daughters to marry a doctor or lawyer etc

    yeah but does that mean you are going to 100% faithful to him?
     
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    #23
    I think a guy need to more attentive when a woman talk. I saw many times relationship end up just because of poor communication. I personally advise you to turn off the TV and cell phone when she talks to you. She will love you then ever before.
    As a guy probably i want the same thing "listen to me attentively".
     
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    #24
    That's basic animal instinct. Maslows laws are to go for shelter, food and security first, then look for luxuries. Certain employment groups have shown they are better "hunters" than others and will provide better so you steer your offspring in those directions.

    That the need is less relevant is one thing but the instinct can't be culled in a single generation.

    And women are still being ditched.

    I spent some time talking to a wealthy man who does alot of church and missionary work overseas and he mentioned that he has 5 children. His glamourous wife then sat down and said something about not having children.
    So, this wealthy man got married, had 5 kids, upgraded his wife and then sent all the dosh to a church group.
    Some woman is left with 5 kids and a reduced ability to earn and replace the lost income. I'm sure he's paying to support the kids but he won't be supporting her - yet she "bet" her future on him.
     
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    #25
    oh come on

    some woman may be turned on by the alpha maleness wealth can be an indication of , but most of its straight greed

    we are way past the hunter gather stage, you don't need a rich husband to survive anymore

    reminds me of this image

    "how to spot a rich man"

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. DeniseJ

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    #26
    Yeah, no shit. Of course I would be. Why wouldn't I hold myself to the same standards I'd hold someone else too? Not to mention, I would never cheat on someone I was in a committed relationship with.
     
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    #27
    So tell me why men are programmed to be turned on by curvy hips and big boobs? A primitive understanding of fertility, that's why. Yet these are the same men that espouse contraception and get vasectomies. So, if they don't value fertility why do they still chase the same shape?
     
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    #28
    lol Denise, you crack me up. :) You're dead on though. Committment is certainly an issue, and both ways.

    There's a lot of this "all" mentality surfacing in this thread. The fact is that nearly every generalization made is flat out wrong, and until you learn that, you won't find better. Most women aren't gold diggers, or always looking for other men. Hell, with as many times as I've been cheated on and had men use me as their financial support, I could say the same thing about men. But that would be wrong too. If those are the kinds of women you come across, you're either a) very young, or b) too ignorant to look in the right places. Pick up a woman at a bookstore instead of a bar, and maybe you'll have better luck. ;)

    Keeping most women's interest is pretty easy:

    1. Pay attention to them, and actually show them that you're listening.
    2. Don't nag about sex all the time (you'll get a lot more if you shut up about it)
    3. Be honest with her and loyal to her, and more often than not, they'll do the same.
     
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    #29
    I think Jenn has pretty much hit the nail on the head with her reply. All a woman wants is to know she's appreciated and cared for. She wants to know that you are going to be as loyal to her as she is to you.

    Oh, and Jenn -- you couldn't be more right about sex. The more you men nag, the less chances you have to actually get any!
     
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    #30
    lol And it's amazing that they never quite grasp that concept! This is one of those things that just makes me ways to say "men are idiots." But I'm trying to not be a man-hater today. ;)
     
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  11. Padawan

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    #31
    Exactly - both men and women have a need for survival and replication.

    When humans were first around the male's strength made him a more suitable provider and protector, hence women still look for those qualities today, even if it may be a less conscious decision. Qualities such as being the leader of the tribe were important then too, because the leader had a better chance of surviving and producing offspring that wouldnt be killed by another man. Thats why even today leadership and confidence are so appealing to women.

    However, men, being able to look after themselves, were more biased towards the replication side of the equation. Curvy hips and large boobs suggest better childbearing and rearing qualities.

    Things may have evolved considerably since we lived in caves but changing the basics of our replication model are something that has hardly evolved since the dawn of time.

    Of course, in this century, the popular media has played its part. Feminism, political correctness and a whole host of other issues have led to movies, tv programmes, etc that teach men that the way to success with women is my being a wuss and sucking up to them.

    WRONG!!

    All women want is for men to be men, but how many of us can remember what that means in this day and age?
     
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    #32
    I guess I can try not to be a man-hater today too, Jenn, since you're doing your best ;)
     
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    #33
    Amen to that Chris!
     
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    #34
    Again another good point. And to add to that...

    Personally I feel that every woman is different and the key to finding out what she wants is good communication and to spend time listening as opposed to NOT listening.

    But hey thats just my opinion.
     
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    #35
    That's all a woman truly wants, when you get right down to it -- a man that actually listens to her. And I don't mean men who pretend to listen to them and then 20 seconds after the woman has left they forget everything she just said.

    I'm talking about a man who will TRULY listen to a woman and actually have some sort of interest in what she's trying to say.
     
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    #36
    as usual woman playing games with the vagina access

    if I have to nag for sex, then I am going to get a mistress, or a new girlfriend
     
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    #37
    My list is a bit longer but it's a good starting point. It's probably the only thing a guy can actually "do". The rest either comes naturally or it doesn't. Little things like fidelity, you can't force that.
    Turn something into a chore and who wants to do it? Where's the fun in something if you get nagged.

    Reminds me of tour brochures in non-english countries. "You will have fun". Oh yeah? you gonna make me?
     
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    #38
    I couldn't agree with you more Denise.

    The smart women out there are able to spot a player that's pretending to listen :) I think it's pretty easy to tell when someone isn't being sincere.

    A man who is TRULY interested in a woman will listen very attentively and also remeber what she said long after she herself has forgotten all about it :)
     
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    #39
    Discovering someone new in ways no-one else ever has is the best part of a relationship isnt it?
     
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    #40
    thats a good point, but I'm into slim woman, but sometimes those curvey chicks about a pound away from being fat do look good
     
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