I've had it with Google Adwords for now, they are just too secretive and unhelpful, I am trying to build a legitimate business and not just some "adsense" site yet they still treat me like dirt, never approve my ads for search so I have closed my adwords account and am going to try to just use Yahoo for now. I am wondering if anyone else has done this as well. I do plan to use adwords again but hopefully I will be able to hire someone to manage this for me once my business gets going since it seems like dealing with adwords is a full time job. Anyways would be interested to hear from any ex-adwords users.