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Welcome to the New World Order - FEMA Joins the HomeLand Security

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Cyrus255, Apr 27, 2006.

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    They are disbanding FEMA. Guess where the new agency will be? That's right, part of Homeland Security. Centralizing all our power is NOT a good thing. Hurricane Katrina was used to justify the integration of FEMA into Homeland Security.

    FEMA could of responded to Hurricane Katrina with ease. Instead, they used this as a political tool. An opportunity to make the government look powerless yet again so that the public gives the government MORE power to deal with future crisis.

    We have a crisis of government on our hands, centralizing all their power. One that threatens our freedoms.
    Cyrus255, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    jackburton2006 Peon

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    Boy, you're really all over the place today, huh? Bi-polar much? :cool:
    jackburton2006, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    I think he's being sarcastic :rolleyes:
    yo-yo, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    Cyrus255 Active Member

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    Upset much. :D

    FEMA joining the Homeland Security. So now, ONE DIRECTOR controls the FBI, CIA, NSA, and FEMA.
    Cyrus255, Apr 27, 2006 IP
  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Behold, the power of lithium!
    GTech, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    I agree; too much power in a few hands is scary.

    What do they wish to gain out of this? What's their measurement of success?
    Rick_Michael, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    Cool.

    When's the next JFK going to happen?
    Rick_Michael, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    FEMA isn't being disbanded. Senate panel suggested it should be, which I don't disagree with, but it doesn't mean it'll ever happen.
    lorien1973, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    Legislation on issues like this usually take some time....so I felt this post wasn't quite right.

    Cyprus, do you have a link to the story?
    Rick_Michael, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    Cyrus255 Active Member

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    Just you watch. :D

    FEMA had the tools to deal with Katrina. They chose not to for a REASON. My guess is to give the impression of incompetence so that the masses think we need a stronger government.

    They are going to disband it. Maybe not today or tomorrow. Maybe give it a few months. Michael Chertoff said they will not disband until AFTER hurricane season.
    Cyrus255, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/19/katrina.fema/index.html

    They either discuss creating a NEW agency as a Cabinet Level organization within DHS, Or "razing and rebuilding" FEMA within the Dept. of Homeland Security

    Either way it's going to become yet another arm of the Department of Homeland Security's Director. Right now, it is a lower tier bracket of the government and DHS, that really functioned on it's own mostly. Instead it's going to be re-organized DHS style! Yeehaw....
    Cyrus255, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Yep, Bush sailed out on a rubber duck into the gulf and personally stood on the ducky's shoulders, reached down and grabbed big jim and the twins a few times and sequestered a huge hurricane which caused the largest natuaral disaster our country has ever seen, so that in his last years of office, he could gather all the power to import every box of Lucky Charms into the Whitehouse.

    I guess there's no use in trying to pull the wool over these eyes!
    GTech, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    I think FEMA's already under DHS, isnt it?

    I remember about 10-15 years ago when the florida's dept of health and human services was woefully incompetent and kids were getting abused and killed in foster care (any floridian will remember this). The grand solution was the rename the program (dept of children and families) and pol's figured the problem would be solved. Well, we all know florida's track record since - that little girl missing in miami and among other cases - problems don't away cuz of a new logo and new management. Its from the bottom up and the problems are systemic.

    Its pretty relatable to FEMA's issues right now. FEMA's a disaster and has been for years if not decades.
    lorien1973, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    I want me lucky charms!

    [​IMG]
    Rick_Michael, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    FEMA - The Secret Government

    By Harry V. Martin with research assistance from David Caul
    http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/FEMAsecretgovt1995.shtml

    Some people have referred to it as the "secret government" of the United States. It is not an elected body, it does not involve itself in public disclosures, and it even has a quasi-secret budget in the billions of dollars. This government organization has more power than the President of the United States or the Congress, it has the power to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain citizens without a warrant and hold them without trial, it can seize property, food supplies, transportation systems, and can suspend the Constitution.

    Not only is it the most powerful entity in the United States, but it was not even created under Constitutional law by the Congress. It was a product of a Presidential Executive Order. No, it is not the U.S. military nor the Central Intelligence Agency, they are subject to Congress. The organization is called FEMA, which stands for the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Originally conceived in the Richard Nixon Administration, it was refined by President Jimmy Carter and given teeth in the Ronald Reagan and George Bush Administrations.

    FEMA had one original concept when it was created, to assure the survivability of the United States government in the event of a nuclear attack on this nation. It was also provided with the task of being a federal coordinating body during times of domestic disasters, such as earthquakes, floods and hurricanes. Its awesome powers grow under the tutelage of people like Lt. Col. Oliver North and General Richard Secord, the architects on the Iran-Contra scandal and the looting of America's savings and loan institutions. FEMA has even been given control of the State Defense Forces, a rag-tag, often considered neo-Nazi, civilian army that will substitute for the National Guard, if the Guard is called to duty overseas.

    THE MOST POWERFUL ORGANIZATION IN THE UNITED STATES
    Though it may be the most powerful organization in the United States, few people know it even exists. But it has crept into our private lives. Even mortgage papers contain FEMA's name in small print if the property in question is near a flood plain. FEMA was deeply involved in the Los Angeles riots and the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake in the San Francisco Bay Area. Some of the black helicopter traffic reported throughout the United States, but mainly in the West, California, Washington, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and Colorado, are flown by FEMA personnel. FEMA has been given responsibility for many new disasters including urban forest fires, home heating emergencies, refugee situations, urban riots, and emergency planning for nuclear and toxic incidents. In the West, it works in conjunction with the Sixth Army.

    FEMA was created in a series of Executive Orders. A Presidential Executive Order, whether Constitutional or not, becomes law simply by its publication in the Federal Registry. Congress is by-passed. Executive Order Number 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies, the bulk of their funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities to assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or domestic. Executive Order Number 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and grant the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry.

    Here are just a few Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

    The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis."

    FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate:

    * the National Security Act of 1947, which allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities;

    * the 1950 Defense Production Act, which gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy;

    * the Act of August 29, 1916, which authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency; and

    * the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national.

    These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.

    HURRICANE ANDREW FOCUSED ATTENTION ON FEMA
    FEMA's deceptive role really did not come to light with much of the public until Hurricane Andrew smashed into the U.S. mainland. As Russell R. Dynes, director of the Disaster Research Center of the University of Delaware, wrote in The World and I, "...The eye of the political storm hovered over the Federal Emergency Management Agency. FEMA became a convenient target for criticism." Because FEMA was accused of dropping the ball in Florida, the media and Congress commenced to study this agency. What came out of the critical look was that FEMA was spending 12 times more for "black operations" than for disaster relief. It spent $1.3 billion building secret bunkers throughout the United States in anticipation of government disruption by foreign or domestic upheaval. Yet fewer than 20 members of Congress , only members with top security clearance, know of the $1.3 billion expenditure by FEMA for non-natural disaster situations. These few Congressional leaders state that FEMA has a "black curtain" around its operations. FEMA has worked on National Security programs since 1979, and its predecessor, the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency, has secretly spent millions of dollars before being merged into FEMA by President Carter in 1979.

    FEMA has developed 300 sophisticated mobile units that are capable of sustaining themselves for a month. The vehicles are located in five areas of the United States. They have tremendous communication systems and each contains a generator that would provide power to 120 homes each, but have never been used for disaster relief.

    FEMA's enormous powers can be triggered easily. In any form of domestic or foreign problem, perceived and not always actual, emergency powers can be enacted. The President of the United States now has broader powers to declare martial law, which activates FEMA's extraordinary powers. Martial law can be declared during time of increased tension overseas, economic problems within the United States, such as a depression, civil unrest, such as demonstrations or scenes like the Los Angeles riots, and in a drug crisis. These Presidential powers have increased with successive Crime Bills, particularly the 1991 and 1993 Crime Bills, which increase the power to suspend the rights guaranteed under the Constitution and to seize property of those suspected of being drug dealers, to individuals who participate in a public protest or demonstration. Under emergency plans already in existence, the power exists to suspend the Constitution and turn over the reigns of government to FEMA and appointing military commanders to run state and local governments. FEMA then would have the right to order the detention of anyone whom there is reasonable ground to believe...will engage in, or probably conspire with others to engage in acts of espionage or sabotage. The plan also authorized the establishment of concentration camps for detaining the accused, but no trial.

    Three times since 1984, FEMA stood on the threshold of taking control of the nation. Once under President Reagan in 1984, and twice under President Bush in 1990 and 1992. But under those three scenarios, there was not a sufficient crisis to warrant risking martial law. Most experts on the subject of FEMA and Martial Law insisted that a crisis has to appear dangerous enough for the people of the United States before they would tolerate or accept complete government takeover. The typical crisis needed would be threat of imminent nuclear war, rioting in several U.S. cites simultaneously, a series of national disasters that affect widespread danger to the populous, massive terrorist attacks, a depression in which tens of millions are unemployed and without financial resources, or a major environmental disaster.

    THREE TIMES FEMA STOOD BY READY FOR EMERGENCY
    In April 1984, President Reagan signed Presidential Director Number 54 that allowed FEMA to engage in a secret national "readiness exercise" under the code name of REX 84. The exercise was to test FEMA's readiness to assume military authority in the event of a "State of Domestic National Emergency" concurrent with the launching of a direct United States military operation in Central America. The plan called for the deputation of U.S. military and National Guard units so that they could legally be used for domestic law enforcement. These units would be assigned to conduct sweeps and take into custody an estimated 400,000 undocumented Central American immigrants in the United States. The immigrants would be interned at 10 detention centers to be set up at military bases throughout the country.

    REX 84 was so highly guarded that special metal security doors were placed on the fifth floor of the FEMA building in Washington, D.C. Even long-standing employees of the Civil Defense of the Federal Executive Department possessing the highest possible security clearances were not being allowed through the newly installed metal security doors. Only personnel wearing a special red Christian cross or crucifix lapel pin were allowed into the premises. Lt. Col. Ollie North was responsible for drawing up the emergency plan, which U.S. Attorney General William French Smith opposed vehemently. The plan called for the suspension of the Constitution, turning control of the government over to FEMA, appointment of military commanders to run state and local governments and the declaration of Martial Law. The Presidential Executive Orders to support such a plan were already in place. The plan also advocated the rounding up and transfer to "assembly centers or relocation camps" of a least 21 million American Negroes in the event of massive rioting or disorder, not unlike the rounding up of the Jews in Nazi Germany in the 1930s.

    The second known time that FEMA stood by was in 1990 when Desert Storm was enacted. Prior to President Bush's invasion of Iraq, FEMA began to draft new legislation to increase its already formidable powers. One of the elements incorporated into the plan was to set up operations within any state or locality without the prior permission of local or state authorities. Such prior permission has always been required in the past. Much of the mechanism being set into place was in anticipation of the economic collapse of the Western World. The war with Iraq may have been conceived as a ploy to boost the bankrupt economy, but it only pushed the West into deeper recession.

    The third scenario for FEMA came with the Los Angeles riots after the Rodney King brutality verdict. Had the rioting spread to other cities, FEMA would have been empowered to step in. As it was, major rioting only occurred in the Los Angeles area, thus preventing a pretext for a FEMA response.

    On July 5, 1987, the Miami Herald published reports on FEMA's new goals. The goal was to suspend the Constitution in the event of a national crisis, such as nuclear war, violent and widespread internal dissent, or national opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad. Lt. Col. North was the architect. National Security Directive Number 52 issued in August 1982, pertains to the "Use of National Guard Troops to Quell Disturbances."

    The crux of the problem is that FEMA has the power to turn the United States into a police state in time of a real crisis or a manufactured crisis. Lt. Col. North virtually established the apparatus for dictatorship. Only the criticism of the Attorney General prevented the plans from being adopted. But intelligence reports indicate that FEMA has a folder with 22 Executive Orders for the President to sign in case of an emergency. It is believed those Executive Orders contain the framework of North's concepts, delayed by criticism but never truly abandoned.

    The crisis, as the government now see it, is civil unrest. For generations, the government was concerned with nuclear war, but the violent and disruptive demonstrations that surrounded the Vietnam War era prompted President Nixon to change the direction of emergency powers from war time to times of domestic unrest. Diana Raynolds, program director of the Edward R. Murrow Center, summed up the dangers of FEMA today and the public reaction to Martial Law in a drug crisis: "It was James Madison's worst nightmare that a righteous faction would someday be strong enough to sweep away the Constitutional restraints designed by the framers to prevent the tyranny of centralized power, excessive privilege, an arbitrary governmental authority over the individual. These restraints, the balancing and checking of powers among branches and layers of government, and the civil guarantees, would be the first casualties in a drug-induced national security state with Reagan's Civil Emergency Preparedness unleashed. Nevertheless, there would be those who would welcome NSC (National Security Council) into the drug fray, believing that increasing state police powers to emergency levels is the only way left to fight American's enemy within. In the short run, a national security state would probably be a relief to those whose personal security and quality of life has been diminished by drugs or drug related crime. And, as the general public watches the progression of institutional chaos and social decay, they too may be willing to pay the ultimate price, one drug free America for 200 years of democracy."

    The first targets in any FEMA emergency would be Hispanics and Blacks, the FEMA orders call for them to be rounded up and detained. Tax protesters, demonstrators against government military intervention outside U.S. borders, and people who maintain weapons in their homes are also targets. Operation Trojan Horse is a program designed to learn the identity of potential opponents to martial law. The program lures potential protesters into public forums, conducted by a "hero" of the people who advocates survival training. The list of names gathered at such meetings and rallies are computerized and then targeted in case of an emergency.

    The most shining example of America to the world has been its peaceful transition of government from one administration to another. Despite crises of great magnitude, the United States has maintained its freedom and liberty. This nation now stands on the threshold of rule by non-elected people asserting non-Constitutional powers. Even Congress cannot review a Martial Law action until six months after it has been declared. For the first time in American history, the reigns of government would not be transferred from one elected element to another, but the Constitution, itself, can be suspended.

    The scenarios established to trigger FEMA into action are generally found in the society today, economic collapse, civil unrest, drug problems, terrorist attacks, and protests against American intervention in a foreign country. All these premises exist, it could only be a matter of time in which one of these triggers the entire emergency necessary to bring FEMA into action, and then it may be too late, because under the FEMA plan, there is no contingency by which Constitutional power is restored.

    Copyright FreeAmerica and Harry V. Martin, 1995

    Web posted at: http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon6.html
    SelenaD, Jun 9, 2006 IP
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    FEMA Part 2;


    More;



    On Monday, June 19, about 4,000 government workers representing more than 50 federal agencies from the State Department to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission will say goodbye to their families and set off for dozens of classified emergency facilities stretching from the Maryland and Virginia suburbs to the foothills of the Alleghenies. They will take to the bunkers in an "evacuation" that my sources describe as the largest "continuity of government" exercise ever conducted, a drill intended to prepare the U.S. government for an event even more catastrophic than the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.



    The exercise is the latest manifestation of an obsession with government survival that has been a hallmark of the Bush administration since 9/11, a focus of enormous and often absurd time, money and effort that has come to echo the worst follies of the Cold War. The vast secret operation has updated the duck-and-cover scenarios of the 1950s with state-of-the-art technology -- alerts and updates delivered by pager and PDA, wireless priority service, video teleconferencing, remote backups -- to ensure that "essential" government functions continue undisrupted should a terrorist's nuclear bomb go off in downtown Washington.




    After 9/11, The Washington Post reported that President Bush had set up a shadow government of about 100 senior civilian managers to live and work outside Washington on a rotating basis to ensure the continuity of national security. Since then, a program once focused on presidential succession and civilian control of U.S. nuclear weapons has been expanded to encompass the entire government. From the Department of Education to the Small Business Administration to the National Archives, every department and agency is now required to plan for continuity outside Washington.



    Since 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina, the definition of what constitutes an "essential" government function has been expanded so ridiculously beyond core national security functions -- do we really need patent and trademark processing in the middle of a nuclear holocaust? -- that the term has become meaningless. The intent of the government effort may be laudable, even necessary, but a hyper-centralized approach based on the Cold War model of evacuations and bunkering makes it practically worthless.



    [After] the terrorist attacks of the mid-1990s and the looming Y2K rollover, and suddenly continuity wasn't only for nuclear war anymore. On Oct. 21, 1998, President Bill Clinton signed Presidential Decision Directive 67, "Enduring Constitutional Government and Continuity of Government Operations." No longer would only the very few elite leaders responsible for national security be covered. Instead, every single government department and agency was directed to see to it that they could resume critical functions within 12 hours of a warning, and keep their operations running at emergency facilities for up to 30 days. FEMA was put in charge of this broad new program.



    On 9/11, the program was put to the test -- and failed. Not on the national security side: Vice President Cheney and others in the national security leadership were smoothly whisked away from the capital following procedures overseen by the Pentagon and the White House Military Office. But like the mass of Washingtonians, officials from other agencies found themselves virtually on their own, unsure of where to go or what to do, or whom to contact for the answers.



    In the aftermath, the federal government was told to reinvigorate its continuity efforts. Bush approved lines of succession for civil agencies. Cabinet departments and agencies were assigned specific emergency responsibilities. FEMA issued new preparedness guidelines and oversaw training. A National Capital Region continuity working group established in 1999, comprising six White House groups, 15 departments and 61 agencies, met to coordinate.



    This year's exercise, Forward Challenge '06, will be the third major interagency continuity exercise since 9/11. Larger than Forward Challenge '04 and the Pinnacle exercise held last year, it requires 31 departments and agencies (including FEMA) to relocate. Fifty to 60 are expected to take part.




    According to government sources, the exercise will test the newly created continuity of government alert conditions -- called COGCONs -- that emulate the DEFCONs of the national security community. Forward Challenge will begin with a series of alerts via BlackBerry and pager to key officials. It will test COGCON 1, the highest level of preparedness, in which each department and agency is required to have at least one person in its chain of command and sufficient staffing at alternate operating facilities to perform essential functions.



    Though key White House officials and military leadership would be relocated via the Pentagon's Joint Emergency Evacuation Program (JEEP), the civilians are on their own to make it to their designated evacuation points.
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    All Americans to be under house arrest, public school children undergo practice drills where they are relocated to "secret locations" (FEMA camps).

    On March 16, 2003 a Ganett News Service headline read, "Red Alert? Stay Home, Await Word." Tom Baldwin went on to report that, while speaking at a news conference alongside Governor James E. McGreevey, Sid Caspersen, New Jersey's Director of the Office of Counter-Terrorism, stated, "If the nation escalates to "red alert," which is the highest in the color-coded readiness against terror, you will be assumed by authorities to be the enemy if you so much as venture outside your home."

    The article also stated, "A red alert would also tear away virtually all personal freedoms to move about and associate." It went on to report that Caspersen said, "You literally are staying home, is what happens, unless you are required to be out."

    On February 14, 2003 article in the Washington Post reported that Washington DC area schools were planning to prevent parents from picking up their own children in the event of a terrorist attack.

    This is an incredibly dangerous trend that we see developing. The Federal Government has done almost nothing to beef up security on our borders since the September 11th attacks, and doles out visas at record levels to people coming to America from countries listed by the State Department a sponsors of terror. Meanwhile, emergency managers across the country are saying that if there is a red alert citizens will have to stay in their homes.

    Almost as soon as I started reporting the news about national house arrest and school Lockdown and relocation on my syndicated radio show, the already bizarre story got ten times worse. I received a call on-air from a parent in Bolton, Massachusetts saying that he had gotten a letter from the Nashoba regional school district telling parents that they would not be allowed to pick up their children during a red alert.

    He faxed our office a copy of the document, which states that not only will they deny parents their right to pick up their children, they will bus the children to a "secret location" that cannot be disclosed to parents.

    Do you really believe that terrorists will carry out a strike and then have the resources to attack the secret location where the children will be? That's ridiculous. This is about the State setting a precedent that they can order you to stay in your home, or that you will be considered an enemy (the definition of extreme martial law) and that your children are their property.

    I have also received internal documents from the US Postal Office in Kansas City, Missouri and Austin, Texas stating that armed guards will make Federal employees stay in the building for days in the event of a terrorist attack or red alert. I have now received faxes and calls from parents in multiple states, big cities and small towns (that's right, you're not safe even in the country) that are even worse than the fax that we've posted, but the parents are afraid to come forward.

    I talked to the parents of two different children who are attending school in Milbourne, Arkansas. For the last week their children have been put through what can only be described as brainwashing more severe than the conditioning undergone by Hitler youth.

    The children in the Milbourne Elementary School have been denied breakfast and lunch while being forced to watch terrifying video of terrorist attacks and archived battle footage.

    On Friday, March 21, 2003 the children were supposed to get out early from school for spring break at 12:15. One of the parents only lives a mile away from the school in the rural community of only 1500 people. He became concerned when his 10 year-old son did not arrive home on time.

    As he was calling the school, his son rode up to the house on his bicycle an hour and a half late. The distraught father told me that after his son told him that he was denied food and was forced to watch the "red alert" videos for three or four hours a day. He reported that school employees told the children that they were not going to be allowed to leave. Then men in dark blue uniforms with rifles locked the children and their teachers in their classrooms. The children's fear intensified when they noticed that their teachers did not know what was going on and were afraid themselves, trying the lock in vain attempts to get out.

    The children were then marched outside where flat faced prison-style school buses were waiting. The parents I talked to said their children clearly saw "US ARMY" on the side of the buses. The children were then marched back to their classrooms and the uniformed men (not local police) disappeared. The children were only then allowed to go home.

    In 1999, infowars.com obtained an Associated Press report about a federal program administered by FEMA that was training schools to load children (handcuffed, in many cases) on school buses and take them to "emergency centers."

    We have seen hundreds reports of this kind of training going on across the country. The government is clearly turning our schools into preparation centers for the police state. Charlotte Izerbyt, former Head of Policy for the Department of Education (1980-1984) had provided me three years ago with internal Department of Education documents where they gleefully announce that the public schools would be used as a system to brainwash our children into accepting a societal shift into authoritarian control.

    It is absolutely vital that all parents contact their local school districts and demand that any attempt by the federal government to implement these programs be stopped.

    Listeners have sent us dozens of local news reports from around the country where police in black uniforms and ski masks yell and scream while brutally manhandling children as young as twelve years of age in lockdown drills. In 2000, Ft. Worth Texas' "Police Officer of the Year" was killed at one of these drills.

    Just sitting here writing this emergency press release, I remembered a story from 1999 where the US Marine Corps with elements of the Coast Guard took over Hobbs Middle School in Pensacola, Florida. The Marines terrified the children and told them, "the mock "takeover" of Hobbs Middle School was a way to illustrate what martial law is all about."

    It goes on and on. Here's the bottom line, parents -- get your children out of these reeducation camps. Authoritarian governments always try to change society at the school level -- and it's happening again.
    SelenaD, Jun 9, 2006 IP
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    Weren't you the perky nazi lad who argued for a fascist solution to just about everything, (well, most especially, in response to the worldwide Jewish consipiracy against, uh, everything)? Have I got you misplaced with someone else? (maybe your bipolar opposite)?
    northpointaiki, Jun 9, 2006 IP
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    NO! I hate Nazi's. They chose the wrong solution. They chose to fear the Jews, and fear is the path to evil.

    Aren't you the perky ignoramus who thinks National Socialism and Fascism are the same. That's like saying a Democracy and a Federal Republic are the same.

    Which we are almost a Mob-Rule state, with a president who has complete power. The Senate might as well disband and just hand him a crown. The President should disband the supreme court because they can manipulate it however they want ever since FDR just "added" more judges whenever he wanted to overturn a ruling.

    P.S. THE US PUT JEWS IN CAMPS IN WORLD WAR 2

    Non-citizens were put in camps during the war. If Einstein didn't have that brain of his, he would of been put in a camp.

    Some were killed in riots, attempts to escape, etc.

    I think it is horrible and wrong. Hitler spread hatred of Jews by spreading fear of them. Fear is the path of evil.

    Only rational, logical, and compassionate thought can lead to a Good outcome for all.


    * EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

    I'd love to see that one in action. Gives new meaning to the word "Postal"


    We're already in a totalitarian government already. Power is completely gone from the states, and even the people think Bush is King. Democrats even credit him as being able to have "tricked all of them" into the war.

    Even now, Congress is voting to allow Line-Item veto, which will give the president a legislative power beyond executive orders. So now the President is lawmaker, judge, and executioner. Instead of being just a powerless executive branch designed ONLY to enforce the laws.

    We're just lucky we don't have a leader with more vices than greed.

    We're economic slaves, and what could be better than that?

    We just lack an emphasis on moral values, instead we've got homosexuals in Massachusetts forcing church adoptive agencies to give them babies.
    Cyrus255, Jun 19, 2006 IP