Welcome to our new overlords..."Papers Please" (national ID card passed)

Actually one of the requirments is that the cards be machine readable, and some of the potential plans for doing this include using RFID.

 

Incorrect. They already have. And we have numerous reports of their invasion through the Mexico border. There are news reports all the time of their of their activities in the US and UK.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/story.jsp?story=629208

 

I hear banjos!

 

This is sooo unnecessary. I bet you'll be able to get a high quality national id on the streets of LA before you can even get one from the government. It serves no purpose other than to bring us that much closer to 1984.

 

Muslims are not trying to invade us? How do you guys know? If they had a chance to, do you think there is a chance they would try? What would happen if the Secret Service and the CIA took a long break or shut down? What if the Israeli army took a break? A lot of you guys seem to think that there is no danger because there have been no recent attacks. Did the bad guys come to their senses? Of course not.
We are adjusting to the danger from the Middle East and we do it as good as we can.
Especially the british and the US government. The last thing I need is an additional form of ID in my wallet. But if it helps keep the peace, maybe that should be something we have to have to protect ourselves.

Just my 2c. They say what we don't know won't hurt us. But yes indeed it can, it all depends on how much you allow your enemies to do. I think that overall it would be more costeffective for us in determining who really has a right to be here and who doesn't - I don't see this as a way to control the masses but rather a way to protect us.

I personally am tired of the "mark of the beast" speculations. Maybe this is a part of the end days but who knows ... I am not going to stand in the way of progress because something could mean more than it is. Everyone seems to have his/her own set of answers but I really don't. May God help us all, that's all I can say.

 

So nobody knows the difference between Muslims and Al-Qaeda?

 

I know that the Al-Quaeda guys are muslims and my opinion is that the muslim community is not trying hard enough to battle the bad apples.

 

Rob, you crack me up. The avatars, the one liners...it is all good.

I think that nobody has all of the answers. Surely, none of us do. I am one of those people that hates government knowing anything about me....I don't know why that is, maybe I read 1984 at too early of an age. I think a lot of the stuff that has been thrown at us in the past couple of years is over the top. But, the fact remains that we have not seen another attack here in the US since Sept of 2001. I am not a huge GWB, but I have to give him credit on this one.

I was in NY during Sept. 11th and I was staying 2 blocks from the Trade Center complex for 2 months afterwards. I know a lot of people who worked there and were there the day it happened. My heart is pounding now thinking about it. It is really tough when you think about all of this legislation and attempts to make this huge country a safer place for all of us. We were spoiled rotten and unfortunately some things are inevitably going to change. The biggest problem is that our Federal agencies are made up of a bunch of idiots for the most part. I have friends that are federal agents and I have met many others. It is pretty sad to be totally honest. I understand sometimes why they have to give them so much power...because if they don't, the 10% that are actually working and doing something won't be able to make any progress. Bah, I wish none of this ever happened.

 

But is did and obviously our previous structure was not good enough to prevent any of it.

 

Do you know how many Muslims there are in the world?

 

about 1 billion

 

Rob, before you make your point: I can say that the KKK is nothing but a group of good Christian folks because only a small percentage of them has killed black people or burned black churches down.

 

I take it Rob doesn't keep up with what's going on in the world around him:

http://freedomhouse.org/religion/news/bn2005/bn-2005-01-28.htm

 

That's not a good comparison.

 

A comparison isn't need to see what's going on.

 

...followers of Saudi Arabia’s extremist Wahhabi ideology are a distinct minority...

 

How so? The Quaran clearly calls upon the muslims to conquer by the sword.

 

Well I haven't read the Quaran.

But the Bible could be quoted out of context and appear to be an extra ordinarily violent scripture. SO BIG DEAL!

I'm not saying that the rise of extremist islamists isn't a problem. But I don't think it's fair to use 'Muslim' as a synonym for 'terrorist'.

 

Not good enough to dismiss the threat and hatred for me. Perhaps for you it is.

 

So go slay some Muslims then, Gtech. I'm sure you can find some there in Texas.