Weird Sales Fluctuations

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  1. Patchkaa

    Patchkaa Peon

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    #161
    I am experiencing increases in sales this week and last, things are starting to pay off now with all the work I put in last month, I got my cousin into clickbank and hes keen to start selling products online. I still think clickbank is awesome despite the constant barrage of moaning and groaning on here, I find alot of people complaining are newbies and dudes that have bad business strategies.
     
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  2. web_18designer

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    #162
    Mate, not because you are not having problems clickbank is the greatest place on earth, you just talk like this until your sales go down the toilet and then you get back here complaining...

    Enough blabling, the gravity chart does not lie, it shows that during the last few days it went back down : http://www.cb-analytics.com/
     
    web_18designer, Nov 21, 2008 IP
  3. terryd

    terryd Well-Known Member

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    #163
    Yeah....o.k....I'll drop clickbank and the thousands I make because I might be missing a commission here and there.....seriously dude if they make you that sick why are you even in this forum.

    I'm sure everybody knows they have the odd problem every now and then but then everybody has the choice to use them or not.
     
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  4. Patchkaa

    Patchkaa Peon

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    #164
    Exactly, too many lameos here complaining about why there sales are dropping instead of spending more time finding new niches and doing more research, some people are stupid!!
     
    Patchkaa, Nov 21, 2008 IP
  5. leehopang

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    #165
    Fuck :/ I usually get 7.
     
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    #166
    I am one of "those" whose sales dropped when Clickbank went all "weird" on us. While i don`t sit around complaining i must say that i am very disheartened by it. When you spend a week building a lander, it converts, then... BANG, nothing, you can`t help but feel frustrated. I still try though, and i don`t moan too much on forums, i agree that doesn`t help much! I`m still going at it, c`mon Clickbank!!
     
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  7. scubita

    scubita Peon

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    #167
    And everybody has the right to question their odd problem, don't they?


    Everytime you write something you just need to insult people... :rolleyes:
     
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  8. bl4ckmaN^

    bl4ckmaN^ Well-Known Member

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    #168
    Why when everyone are having problems, you sales are doubling? :rolleyes:
     
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  9. terryd

    terryd Well-Known Member

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    #169
    Absolutely.....I'm not a DP policeman and the reality is that people can moan and bitch about clickbank on this forum all they want and the great thing about it is that it doesn't make the slightest difference to how much money I make.

    All one can do is voice their concerns to Clickbank and hope for a positive response.
     
    terryd, Nov 22, 2008 IP
  10. web_18designer

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    #170
    Some people think that "complaining" or saying that sales went down the toilet is of no use. the fact is that we marketers track everything, even the conversion of a single word on a daily basis, then its obviously it makes a lot of sence that we track/share when sales are down unexpectedly (For whatever reason)...

    As someone else mentioned, we search for products to sell, spend months tweaking campaigns for the best possible ROI, and then suddenly from xxxx/day to xx/day overnight, thers no need to say that its very important that we share whenever a surge like this occur.

    To those that are not having problems, instead of posting useless comments its better that you help out and tell us your niche or what you are promoting - this way you might be of some use and just a thorn in the a***;)
     
    web_18designer, Nov 22, 2008 IP
  11. terryd

    terryd Well-Known Member

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    #171
    Mate I'll tell you my niches as soon as you tell me yours........nah I'm fibbing.......there is of course a reason that I don't have any signatures on any forums I post to and I suspect it's the same reason that you don't post signatures.

    I would say however that the products I've been promoted have been pretty consistent over the last 3-4 months when a lot of other peoples niches have seemingly fluctuated wildly.

    Don't think I ever take pleasure in listening to others peoples marketing misfortunes because I don't (especially the PPC's). It really sucks ass and it's happened to me in the past but that was simply because I got lazy and stopped working.

    I honestly don't know if reporting/complaining here actually does anything though does it?
     
    terryd, Nov 22, 2008 IP
  12. scubita

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    #172
    Again, i say people has the right to comment, analyze, and discuss in public forums as this one. Not saying one should, but let's face it: a few weeks ago lot's of DP users said something was wrong in CB. This lasted for weeks! And now, CB says they have some problems. In fact they've mailed users about it. Now, those that spent days saying there was nothing wrong, and some of us we're stupid, :rolleyes: should close their mouths for 1 whole year... :rolleyes:


    Really? Never notice that, just noticed his ability to insult.


    If lot's of users complaint about CB tracking/others, they can lose new users and they don't want that, and surely they don't want registed users complaining in public (and indexed) forums.

    I understand some users don't seem affected by these issues, but hey, some people need to understand these issues exist and affect others. No need to insult and/or pretend we're a bunch of irresponsible/lunatic CB users.

    ;)
     
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  13. Patchkaa

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    #173
    Dude, the fact is it only takes one idiot to start moaning abot his/her sales being low then all the other DP newbies or users jump on the bandwagon and start complaining as well. This is unhealthy coz it creates negativity and gives people an excuse for their failures instead of using this as an opportunity to learn. I honestly think DP should ban these kind of threads coz its counter productive. So scubita instead of whining and moaning use this time to review your campaigns and try different things, spending time here complaining will not help your situation get better.
     
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    web_18designer Peon

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    #174

    Dude, thers a difference between screwing something in the marketing process (which can happen easily) and clickbank (or whatever) screw something.

    This is the scope of these threads, so that we know when the problem is "because we did something wrong" or the problem is because of some "other external issue that is out of our control".

    I know as a matter of fact that when sales are good you will look over the other people that are having problems and say: "oh yeh those are idiots complaining for nothing and dont know what they are doing"

    However, then when you find yourself in the same situation you will think differently.

    If you dont believe us, go over the "warriors forum" there are hundreds of similar threads.

    And as i mentioned in a previous post, i still cant buy a product with 3 different credit cards to this day! And you can add the 15 emails (so far)i recieved from customers that cant buy my products too...
     
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    #175
    Dude, don't bother replying - use your time to be productive instead.
     
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  16. arnold

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    #176
    I'm no newbie and I use to make five figures every month in clickbank. But I'm almost 0 this week. The same thing happened last month also (week before Halloween). I doubt whether Thanksgiving holiday might me the reason for this slump.
     
    arnold, Nov 22, 2008 IP
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    #177
    Okay, so this is weird. I've had NO Clickbank sales either as an affiliate or a publisher for almost exactly a month now.

    I was checking my hops as a publisher a couple of days ago to see how many people had clicked on the hoplinks on my publisher page - trying to see if traffic was just low, or what.

    It showed me just 60 visits to my hoplinks within the last 30 days.

    Today I checked these same stats and now when I look for the past 30 days of hoplinks it says that I've had over 1500 people clicking on my hoplinks (which is about normal per month.)

    But the difference between 1500 and 60? They're suddenly showing all these hops throughout that 30 days period that supposedly add up to 1500 hops - when the other day they only showed 60? And that blast of traffic didn't just happen within the past few days. It's like they added in all these hops from throughout the month - where I'd get two hops one day, 70 the next, 50 the next, etc - only those stats WERE NOT THERE IN MY ACCOUNT WHEN I LOOKED JUST THE OTHER DAY.

    Still haven't had ANY sales which just doesn't make sense. I usually make a modest $300-$800 per month as a publisher (Not a lot, but I haven't been promoting the website in question for a long time and I have a lot of affiliates who do the work for me.) Normally for about 1500 hops I'd see a minimum of 20 sales.

    Something is seriously WHACKED at Clickbank.

    Why did they suddenly just add all those hoplink clicks for this past 30 days when the other day they were saying I'd only had 60 hops?

    I can only imagine what's going on in other accounts.

    If you're a publisher, keep a careful eye on how many hop link clicks are listed in your account each day. See if it fluctuates in this weird way where one day Clickbank says you've only had 60 clicks all month and the next day it says you had 1500 clicks like it did with me.

    What the hell is going on?

    Dan
     
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  18. bl4ckmaN^

    bl4ckmaN^ Well-Known Member

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    #178
    I feel like being an affiliate for Clickbank is really messed up, but if you are a publisher with high-gravity product, then it's much easier.

    I know there is a lot work involved, including constant affiliate support, but still you are "the boss", and fluctuations don't really matter for you...
     
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  19. terryd

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    #179
    But there's half the problem....it's out of your control (assuming that it is clickbank in all cases).... I'm at the stage where I just don't know if complaining about it here actually does anything productive anymore?

    Instead of complaining here why not bombard clickbank with emails and take it from there, surely that would be a more effective way and would perhaps get something to change. Posting here I doubt would.

    Sorry mate I just don't think like that. Just because things have been steady for me does NOT mean I take joy in the problems that others are having but it really is out of my control. All I can do is try to answer the odd post around here hoping it can help someone.

    I have seen the threads over there also, but again unless they take more proactive action than simply posting on the forum ( like contacting clickbank) I'm not sure anything is going to change and even then after contacting clickbank will anything change, we can only hope?
     
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  20. terryd

    terryd Well-Known Member

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    #180
    As I said before anyone can comment anytime they want but what good does it do with this situation, instead of posting to a forum, go to the source and perhaps you will get a result.

    For some people nothing has changed over the last few months, I don't know how to explain it but for me anyway, things have been very constant and just because things have been difficult for some doesn't mean they're stupid or anything like that and I'm sure I've never insinuated that.


    I'm not too sure that they really care, they know they are the big kahuna as far as digital products and affiliate network combined. I mean every time they have an update of some sort you can rest assured that there's going to be a slew of complaints on the forums and that's not dating back months, that's dating back a few years and yet what have clickbank done about it......zilch, nada, zero......:D

    But it's so much fun :D........... but seriously I'm pretty sure I haven't taken pot shots at others who are having difficulties at the moment, simply because I'm aware it can happen to anyone (and I'm not like that anyway) , we (or most of us) don't deal in a tangible world. All our efforts are floating around in cyberspace and things can change at the drop of a hat and they often do.
    :)
     
    terryd, Nov 22, 2008 IP