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Weight Formula Changed

Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by digitalpoint, Apr 27, 2005.

  1. bloodwrath

    bloodwrath Active Member

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    #41
    thanks for the idea :p
    good thing im a candian boy we dont sue anyone up here in canada EH!:rolleyes:
     
    bloodwrath, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  2. chris7

    chris7 Peon

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    #42
    My weight changes:

    42k -> 5k
    5.5k -> 650
    3k -> 350
    2k -> 250

    Seeing between 8 and 8 1/2 reduction, Im not too worried yet as its all in perspective to everything else ;)

    Problem was for me as a newbie as I was just starting to get my head around weight ;)

    What would people now assume was a decent starting weight, say around 5k which is now about 500, is this a good indication?

    Cheers
     
    chris7, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  3. chachi

    chachi The other Jason

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    #43
    Heh, I always thought you had to run the ads sitewide, a sub-folder was not good enough. Oh, well :)

    So, with the cap removed, you are saying that above 4,500 pages (or whatever it was) there will be more weight given...just at a lower marginal rate, right?
     
    chachi, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  4. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #44
    Topics and tools at Digital Point are very hot! Use or misuse of these topics and tools could result in you being seriously burned. Use Caution!
     
    noppid, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  5. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #45
    Very very wise words...
     
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  6. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #46
    Yep, exactly...
     
    digitalpoint, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  7. ProductivePC

    ProductivePC Peon

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    #47
    Was losing Ranking.... freaking out... checked weight.... really freaked out!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    Came running to the forum with the intention of......
    Almost posted in the wrong forum because I couldn't think straight after seeing only 1/10th of the weight I used to have....
    Calmed down... found this thread.... feeling a little better.
     
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  8. chachi

    chachi The other Jason

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    #48
    Very nice. Very nice indeed. Thanks for a great upgrade.
     
    chachi, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  9. gford

    gford Peon

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    #49
    Yep. I was getting ready to post my 5x drop until I saw this post at the TOP of the weight question section. :) good thread title saved me the embarrassment. :D
     
    gford, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  10. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #50
    But so many others were hasty and provided TOPS with a bunch of work.

    I dunno if that is good or bad. :D
     
    noppid, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  11. Stin

    Stin Guest

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    #51
    not going to put an announcement up on the validation screen DP?
     
    Stin, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  12. fooey

    fooey Peon

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    #52
    was more than a little disconcerting to see my weight drop from 180k to 50k
    feel much better now, thanks for the hard work and a great application =)
     
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  13. honey

    honey Prominent Member

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    #53
    Dropped from 900k to around 190k. SCARY.
     
    honey, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  14. spdude

    spdude Guest

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    #54
    Honey,

    You actually came out on top. because the drop was by a factor of just four. The total network weight went down by six times. So basically your weight is up by almost a third, if I understand correctly.

    A few of my sites are down because of some footer issues ;) Once they get fixed I'll have a tun of weight also.
     
    spdude, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  15. eduardomaio

    eduardomaio Peon

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    #55
    And how is the weight calculated now? Still PR and Total indexed pages via API?

    You should email everyone! I was going mad!
     
    eduardomaio, Apr 28, 2005 IP
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    Dastar Active Member

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    #56
    Base weight went from 67,500 down to 7500. Not sure if this helped me in my case or not.
     
    Dastar, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  17. E Doc Tong

    E Doc Tong Peon

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    #57
    Wow - does everyone watch their weight *that* closely?
    Must admit I'm glad I read this thread before I checked and agree with the suggestion of putting a message explaining what's happened on the validation page.

    Shawn: would you be willing to share with us the formula?
    You said it uses a log scale now - what base?
    Assuming it still uses PR and page count - is the PR influence also log?

    I understand if you don't want to give away all the details (though can't see any real harm in it) but if you don't I would predict that there will be lots of posts along the lines of:

    My site is PRX with YYYY pages in google and my weight is ZZZZ

    until people figure it out (or think they have)

    Not that it's really important - all we need to know is that we need as many pages as possible in the google index and as much PR on the home-page as possible. Go figure..

    Anyway - glad to see the changes - only one 'gripe' (if you can call it that) Now I have to go back and re-group my sites to distribute the weight correctly :( - any chance you'll increase the number of active ads allowed per account, based on number of consolidated accounts, so that we can just link all our accounts to one master account? I know it's been discussed before, but seems appropriate to mention it again.
     
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  18. Nacho

    Nacho Peon

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    #58
    Here is a rundown report of changes I've been tracking:

    Previous | New | % of Previous
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    67,500 | 24,000 | 36% (this one is mine)
    100,000 | 10,000 | 10%
    120,000 | 22,000 | 18%
    29,000 | 3,000 | 10%
    1,200,000 | 220,000 | 18%
    1,000,000 | 111,000 | 11% (someone reported 1/9th, I used hard numbers)
    202,000 | 44,000 | 22%
    42,000 | 5,000 | 12%
    5,500 | 650 | 12%
    3,000 | 350 | 12%
    2,000 | 250 | 13%
    1,000,000 | 100,000 | 10%
    180,000 | 50,000 | 28%
    900,000 | 190,000 | 21%
    67,500 | 7,500 | 11%

    Average 16%

    If you remove the spikes, it looks like an average 12% - 13% of your previous points. I would see this as, if your number is higher than the average then you will most likely see your number of links increase.

    Now, if that's the case then it looks like I will have 2.6 times more links than before . . . Wahooo! Couldn't be more excited!! The big HOWEVER is though, how will search engines view my site(s) gaining links so fast??? I just hope that search engines do not really see the time it takes to gain links.... and its always been people-talk speculation. In reality I'm not that worried about that, I'm still celebrating. Thank you Shawn!!!!
     
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  19. rex_b

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    #59
    same here.
     
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  20. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #60

    :eek: :eek: :eek:

    Wow, what I could do with that weight...
     
    fryman, Apr 28, 2005 IP