Weight confusion

Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by nddb, Aug 8, 2005.

  1. #1
    I'm confused. API is showing a big jump, but it isn't showing on DP. I am confused, it's been about 24 hours.

    My number of indexed api pages is actually higher than my co-op weight, which doesn't seem right?? The co-op weight is usually significantly higher than the # of pages indexed in the API.

    Anyone have any ideas? Is the API server that the co-op hits just not updated? (I've not seen it take this long before).

    Sites in sig, thanks!!


    p.s. the coop is awesome, I cannot believe the climb in google.
     
    nddb, Aug 8, 2005 IP
  2. nddb

    nddb Peon

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    Someone mind looking it over for me? It's so odd, usually 10,000 pages indexed would bring twice as much weight, like 20,000. But ~20,000 API indexed pages is only giving like 19K weight, that can't be right can it? I'm showing 5 ads and it's a pr4... :(
     
    nddb, Aug 9, 2005 IP
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    #3
    I assume you revalidated since the increase in weight? If not, the Coop only recalculates weight every few days.

    Otherwise, the only other think I can think of is that the API can use different datacenters, and I have heard of there being difference between them at times. They usually work out within a few days.
     
    crew, Aug 9, 2005 IP
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    I recalced =) I've never seen it take this long, but I can wait... heh.
     
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    Can any of the mods see what DP is actually getting back from google? Everywhere I check it's 20k pages. Yet, I only have 19k weight. That seems very odd, because usually it's 2 - 3 times more. Or is this just part of the algo?

    (sorry, google added like 10k pages to the API the other day, and I was excited to see the weight, but now I'm not seeing it.. heh.)
     
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    #6
    Depends on the datacentre the API uses at that point you check, it is outwith DP's control so whatever will be will be and thats the deal, keep watching and waiting but no mods can do anything for you as regards your API results.
     
    sji2671, Aug 10, 2005 IP
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    Man, it's been like 4 days now. Still no weight change. and the API is going up where I'm looking... so I dunno what is going on.. :( Is there any way to see what DP is seeing for API results? Is there some kind of possible malfunction? Or is this how the algo works? Or what? Doesn't seem to make sense... I've never seen DP take 4 days to get updated results, and had the API climb in the interim, seems like something isn't right...
     
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    Now, from what I can see, API goes up by 1000, DP stays the same... again. I don't understand why it isn't seeing the API increases.
     
    nddb, Aug 13, 2005 IP
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    Ok, now it's PR4 site, 24,000 pages in the API, still a weight of 19,936. ?????

    I just don't understand it, unless the API that DP is getting results from has not updated in over a week. This is sucking... that's the same weight I had with like 9k pages in the API. :(
     
    nddb, Aug 14, 2005 IP
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    Well in my experience the number of indexed pages does not necessarily mean that your coop weight will be a larger figure. It is not a linear graph as in
    500 pages may be 1000 weight
    50,000 pages does NOT mean you would get 100,000

    The increase does not work in a straight line like that, after you get into the 10's of thousands of pages the increase in coop weight slows down, it is what it is.
     
    sji2671, Aug 14, 2005 IP
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    Geez, man, what do you want us to do??? Just keep validating each day until it finally shows your weight. I have a site that went from 9k weight to 1.5k, and it still has the same amount of pages indexed, nothing I can do except wait and validate every few days to see if it goes up again.
     
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    Well, it just seems to me that something is malfunctioning. Either google or DP. I understand I can keep validating, which I have been doing. But it seems odd that my indexed pages is higher than my weight, for quite a while now. The API continues to go up, but weight does not. I've checked the API from several locations.

    What is bothersome is that the ad-network doesn't tell you what it sees in the API.

    So I really have no idea what's going on, but it could be :

    1) This could be the way the DP algo works, as slj says, it slows down a lot at this point so your indexed pages can be higher than your weight, even when showing 5 ads on a PR4 site.

    2) The API server that digitalpoint sees has not updated, at all, since over a week ago.

    3) the ad-network is not calculating my weight correctly.

    How many people here have ~24,000 pages in the API, show 5 ads on a PR4 site and have 20k weight. It just doesn't make sense, the way the ad-network has been working up until this point for me. It always sees the API changes first, and always adds ~ 3 x (API increase) to the weight.

    I'd just like to know why it's not following the trend it always has. It seems far out of the ordinary from my experience in the ad-network up to this point.
     
    nddb, Aug 14, 2005 IP
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    Welp, I don't understand it, but serps and impressions are rising, so I guess I need to just quit worrying about the # and look at the results... yet again, the co-op pushes me up a bit more.

    Sorry for bothering so much about the weight, I just expected it to be like triple what it was, but it makes sense, I think, for the algo to calm down at this point. Gives people who are just starting a chance to get decent weight, if that is what it is, and it seems like it.

    anyway, thanks for the help folks. =)
     
    nddb, Aug 17, 2005 IP
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    #14
    Take a deep breath and relax....It all balances out in the end. Everytime someone complains that their weight isn't as high as it should be, someone elses weight is higher than it should be.

    The system is based on the Google API which can be a bit tempremental.

    Just leave it and forget about it. Checking it every few minutes isn't going to make the API report something different.
     
    yfs1, Aug 17, 2005 IP