Weed, Pot, Marijuana.....Legalize it or not?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Daniel, Jun 3, 2005.

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Legalize it?

Poll closed Jun 10, 2005.
  1. I'd have it no other way!

    24 vote(s)
    54.5%
  2. Damn burnouts!

    20 vote(s)
    45.5%
  1. Dave90210

    Dave90210 Well-Known Member

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    #381
    This thread is over 3 years old. Not sure if anyone realized that.
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #382
    So? Most of the people in here are probably stoned man... Come on, you know it takes a while to post, drive, or do much of anything when you're stoned! Did you see the coke thread? It was over in two snorts of a...:eek:
     
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    #383
    Hemp's a useful product that can replace man-made fibers that are petroleum based.

    The THC content of industrial hemp is limited to 0.3%. THC levels can reach as high as 24% in the unfertilized females which are given ample room to flower.
     
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  4. lassie911

    lassie911 Well-Known Member

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    #384
    The only problem with the hemp/weed issue is that it's the same plant. Hemp leaves are considered "weed". So since the leaves are suppose to be dangerous, "the gateway drug" etc. it's not legal to grow in most places. So all of the useful benefits of the plant can't be utilized by the general public. The leaves do this, the stalk does that, the seeds do this etc. This plants have many benefits besides the medicinal uses. It is an error to try to seperate one part of the plant from the other and say it's something else. Someone said you wouldn't want to smoke hemp but it depends on what part you are talking about. The hemp leaves can be smoked while the stalk and seeds can't be. They can be but you won't get "high". What Mia said about some of the uses he has seen may or may not be illegal but technically, in most places it is. I just wanted to point out that hemp is the same as weed, cannibis etc. Most places don't differentiate between the leaves from the rest of the plant as far as their laws go unless it's a genetically modified form.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #385
    You are incorrect, a true 'industrial' hemp plant is different as it does not contain the ratio of thc that other varities of cannabis have. Be it cannabis sativa or indica
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #386
    There's going to be a few people getting high of the stuff. But it doesn't really matter. Industrial hemp is 0.3 thc when grown in dense concentrations.
     
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  7. lassie911

    lassie911 Well-Known Member

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    #387
    I may be incorrect on that point but how? I would agree that there are various levels of thc but a low quantity of thc doesn't make it a different plant from the higher thc plant. If they choose to give hemp with low levels of thc "industrial hemp" that's fine. I will re-phrase my main point though. Hemp is hemp regardless of the amount of thc. The fact that the leaves are given one name while the rest of the plant has another doesn't change that. So I stand by my point that when we are talking about weed, there are more issues to look at aside from the leaves.

    Read this story and ask yourself why?
    http://amandamaria.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/vermont-passes-industrial-hemp-law/

    If it's about the "drug" aspect (the leaves) then what's the problem with hemp with low tch amounts? This is why we tell people that this plant is a way for everyone (on earth) to have food, clothing, shelter and medicine just by growing it. The system we all live under wants all of you to have to rely on them for all of the aforementioned. Does that make sense to everyone?:)
     
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    #388
    I am pro legalizing both...

    However plants have different varieties, it's like saying a tomato is a tomato, when in fact there are hundreds of varieties.

    Industrial hemp is in fact a different variety than the cannabis produced for intoxicating effects. Can the cannabis with intoxicating effects be used for everything industrial hemp is? Possibly most of it, that however does not change the fact that they are different.
     
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  9. LogicFlux

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    #389
    You guys must get high off of grass clippings, man, because I don't feel a thing.

    -Chong
     
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  10. Mia

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    #390
    You can't smoke hemp... trust me.. You don't want to do it.
     
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  11. lassie911

    lassie911 Well-Known Member

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    Aren't cokerspanials and pitbulls both dogs? You may say they are different species but they are still both dogs. You can't clip the tail of of the pitbull and it say it's no longer a dog because it's tail is smaller.

    You've proved my point. Both the Industrial hemp and cannabis are the same except that cannabis has more thc. If I were to breed cannabis to produce lower thc levels, it's still hemp just with less thc. No different from my pitbull tail analogy.

    I would like to hear from others to see their responses.
     
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    #392
    I did not 'prove your point'. :rolleyes:

    There are varieties, they are not identical, that is the point.

    A pitbull is not a cocker spaniel, nor is it a poodle. Yes it's a type of dog, it however is not the same type 'breed/variety' of dog.

    --
    My dog is a bullmastiff, a breed of mastiff and bulldog 'old english extinct variety' mixed, 60/40 He is not a mastiff or a bulldog, he is a bullmastiff.'
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    Your analogy entails physical clipping of a tail which of course does not change the species, changing by breeding or other form however is totally different.
     
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  13. Mia

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    #393
    I don't think you'd wanna smoke a bullmastiff either.
     
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    #394
    Especially not when he farts, talk about BAD GAS!

    :eek:
     
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    #395
    "Mostly Mawui Waui, but its got some Labrador in it..."

    -Chong
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Kinda saw that coming... That is classic. Took him like 3 days to find it all... chasing him around the yard with a little baggy.
     
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    #397
    Where do I vote?
     
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    #398
    You already voted....


    (stupid pothead.... sean its about time to stop, the movie is over!)
    :D
     
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    Most hemp is grown from sativa, most of the seeds have been selected to favor plants with thicker stems and more leaves. If its being grown for hemp, they usually keep male and female plants together on the plot so the seeds can be harvested for oil and protein feed, so they allow the plants to pollenate but they don't allow the flowers to fully develop.

    If you took the same sativa plants and removed all the male plants while letting the females grow until the flowers fully bloomed, it would be something that someone might want to smoke.

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    Different strains can be cross bred so technically I think its all the same species and any of them could be genetically selected and cloned to produce successive generations exhibiting any of the varying traits.

    When it "jumps off the farm" it turns into the short lawn-weed looking thing that has almost no agricultural benefit whatsoever aside from its ability to be domesticated over a few month-long generations.
     
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  20. Daniel

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    #400
    I quit Mwahahahahahaha
     
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