Weed, Pot, Marijuana.....Legalize it or not?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Daniel, Jun 3, 2005.

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Legalize it?

Poll closed Jun 10, 2005.
  1. I'd have it no other way!

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  2. Damn burnouts!

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  1. Blogmaster

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    #362
    yeah I get your point
     
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    #363
    Hey, I'm there with ya brother! I agree completely 100%. I guess I what I am getting at is that it is likey going to be easier and more productive to concentrate all this "legalize it" energy on lessening the penalties for those that do. I think if you are caught with a joint or two, or smokin' it, give em' a fine like a speeding ticket. No jail time. Just a fine. And if you are growing your own, a fine... I guess they will have to take the product as well, but hey, start again. I am willing to bet many take the risk of getting a speeding ticket. Sometimes you get one, sometimes you do not. But you do not go to prison for it. (usually)
     
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    #365
    I have my state issued mary jane card =)
     
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    #366
    It doesn't really matter to me as long as the person is responsible then yeah sure legalize it. Be prepared to pay a crapload of taxes on the stuff though.
     
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    Arnold thinks so.
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    Of course it should be legal, it's a plant that God created for you to use. When you do some research on the plant itself you will know what it is to be used for. No, the government/state doesn't have any rights to the profits made from it either so taxing is out. lol at people willingly handing over their hemp profits to governments. When was the last time the government gave you anything?

    First point: If you have never researched both sides of this issue please don't speak. If you just heard them say on television that it's this and that and you are just repeating it, then you are stupid and easily duped. Not only that but you are missing out on one of the most beneficial plants on earth, if not the most beneficial plant. You can keep spending thousands of dollars a year on fish for the amino acids they contain or you can just get hemp seeds which contain more amino acids. ;)

    My second point is that hemp doesn't have to be smoked and is more potent/effective if eaten.

    Third point is we have thousands of years of history that counters every argument made against hemp. This re-writing of history to demonize hemp has been observed and exposed various times. Anyone who wants to know the truth can search online.

    I have heard of people overdosing, but not on hemp.

    I have heard of drinking and driving related accidents but not smoking and driving accidents.

    I have heard of people robbing to support their heroin habit but not their hemp habit etc. Why don't you hear about those things happening from hemp? It's simple, it doesn't have that type of effect and never did.

    Where are all of the other gateways at? Why is it that hemp is the gateway drug yet you never hear about any other gateways to anything else. What is the gateway to drinking, cigarette smoking, sex etc. That should tell you something right there about how it is intentionally made to look evil. Think about it.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5178552626409134285&hl=en
    Hemp Revolution
     
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    You're so stoned right now double posted! ;)
     
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    #370
    I never understood why some people are so into weed. I smoke it with my friends, but I don't see what is so great about it.
     
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    One more thing. Everyone is talking about the medicinal aspects of "weed" but how many of you are aware of it's many other uses?
     
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    It's legal here in West Hollywood with a prescription.
     
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    #373
    I don't smoke it.
    But I think it should be legal.
    Alcohol and cigarettes are far worse for you and those are legal.
     
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    #374
    the real question is can the DEA do anything about the drug problem except put people in jail and pretend to be in some "war against drugs"...

    if every druggie knows where to score every day then one has to wonder what good are the laws against drugs and why is an unsuccessful company like the DEA being payed for?...

    the DEA and the anti drug laws are the drug dealers BEST FRIEND...you see without them drugs would cost next to 0 and the drug dealers would be out of their very very lucrative job...90% of all crime is drug related and its the #1 sponsor of all gangs/thugs/prostitution...

    in real life when a company does not do its job (like the DEA) it does not get payed...

    when i say "DEA" i mean any anti drug agency in any part of the world at any given time in history...
     
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    Like getting stoned? I'm, I give up.
     
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    After you read this, do the math. Hemp on the street level cost more than gold, how much wealth would you have if it were legal to produce?


    Uses for Hemp


    Hemp can be used to produce a very large variety of products from clothing to paper to building supplies to cars to fuels to food products to much, much more. Some people have called hemp the plant of 30,000 uses because it combines the utility of the soybean, the cotton plant and the Douglas Fir tree into one green package. Hemp is an environmental, renewable, reusable and recyclable resource.

    Hemp fabrics.

    Hemp grows well without herbicides, fungicides, or pesticides. The production of cotton, on the other hand, consumes almost half of the agricultural chemicals used on American crops. Hemp bast fibers are one of the longest natural soft fibers. They are longer, stronger, more absorbent, more mildew-resistant, and more insulative than cotton. This means that hemp will keep you warmer in winter and cooler in summer than cotton.

    Hemp is more effective at blocking the sun's harmful ultraviolet rays. The nature of hemp fibers makes them more absorbent to dyes, which coupled with hemp's ability to better screen out ultraviolet rays, means that hemp material is less prone to fading than cotton fabrics are. Like cotton, hemp can be made into a variety of fabrics, including high quality linen. When blended with materials such as cotton, linen, and silk, hemp provides a sturdier, longer lasting product, while maintaining quality and softness.

    Hemp is environmentally friendly in many ways. It can displace the use of cotton, which requires massive amounts of chemicals harmful to people and the environment. The production of cotton consumes 50% of the pesticides sprayed in the entire world. Hemp has a deep root system that helps to prevent soil erosion, removes toxins, provides a disease break, and aerates the soil to the benefit of future crops.

    Biodegradable industrial products.

    Because hemp is rich in cellulose, research is being conducted into the use of hemp for the production of biodegradable plastic products. Plant based cellophane, recycled plastic mixed with hemp for injection-molded products, and resins made from hemp oil could one day be manufactured. BMW in an effort to make cars more recyclable, is using hemp materials in their automobiles. Hemp fibers are increasingly being used in industry as a substitute for fiberglass. The advantage of replacing fiberglass with hemp is that hemp is lighter, as strong or stronger, is biodegradable and is cheaper.

    Biomass fuels.

    Hemp is a high yield fiber crop, producing more biomass per acre than most other crops. As a result, the hydrocarbons in hemp could be used as a renewable, low polluting alternative to fossil fuels that is non-polluting to our atmosphere. Hemp is excellent in producing alternative fuels such as biodiesel and ethanol. Hemp could be processed into fuel pellets, liquid fuels, and gas, reducing our consumption of fossil fuels and nuclear power. Both the seed and the fiber can be used, though the process varies depending on what you use.

    Replacement for wood products.

    As a replacement for wood products, hemp offers many more environmentally friendly benefits. Hemp yields three to eight tons of fiber per acre, which is four times the yield of the average forest. Unlike wood, hemp is low in lignin, which means that hemp can be pulped using fewer chemicals. Many construction products now made out of wood could be made from hemp.

    Beams, studs, posts, oriented strand board, and medium density fiberboard made from hemp would be stronger and lighter because of hemp's long fibers. Washington State University produced hemp fiberboard that was found to be twice as strong as wood-based fiberboard. The replacement of wood fiber by hemp-based products can save forests for wildlife habitat, watersheds, recreational areas, oxygen production, and carbon removal, which reduces global warming.

    Paper.

    Hemp paper is of the highest quality, resists decomposition, and does not yellow as it ages when an acid-free process is used. It is for these reasons that hemp paper is used in Europe for bibles. A sample of hemp paper has been found that is more than 1500 years old. Only around 1850 did paper from wood pulp start to replace hemp. Trees were cheap, but now they are rapidly getting depleted.

    Over a period of 20 years one hectare (ha) of hemp can produce as much paper as four hectares of forest. Japan still imports much of its wood pulp from tropical rainforests which are being destroyed at an alarming rate. Hemp paper can be recycled many more times than wood-based paper. Hemp's natural creamy color eliminates the need for chlorine bleach, which prevents the dumping of extremely toxic dioxin into streams. Instead, hemp can be bleached using gentler hydrogen peroxide.

    Body Care Products.

    Hemp s antimicrobial properties make it useful for cosmetics and body care products such as shampoos and hair conditioners, lotions, massage oils, salves, soaps, skin crèmes, sunscreen, and lip balm. The oil from hemp seeds has been known to cure dermatitis and other serious skin diseases.

    Pet Foods.

    Hemp provides a healthy protein for pets from dogs and cats to cows and horses to all varieties of birds and chickens.

    Detergents.

    The oil is also being made into a laundry detergent that biodegrades naturally in our water systems.

    Art supplies.

    Hemp is an excellent archival material, for use in paintings and books. Most famous paintings are painted with hemp oil on hemp linen. In ancient China the art of making paper from hemp and mulberry bark was guarded as a state secret, but eventually the knowledge found its way to Japan and also to Europe via the Arabs. In 1390 the first European mill processing hemp rags into paper was founded.

    In 1455 Gutenberg printed the first printed book in Europe on hemp paper. Washi, a traditional Japanese paper, was made from hemp and mulberry fiber. Nowadays hemp is virtually unavailable for this purpose though a limited supply of hemp paper has been manufactured in Tochigi recently. Hemp and mulberry paper are also used for ritual strips of paper decorations used at Shinto shrines. Japan imported the recipe for paper making from China where most paper still contains hemp today.

    Food products.

    A vast array of food products can be made from hemp seeds. They have exceptional nutritional value and are second only to soybeans as a source of complete vegetable protein. However, they are longer lasting and more digestible than soybeans. The main protein found in hempseed is edestin. Unlike soy, hemp doesn t have to be cooked or fermented for it to be digestible.

    VALUE OF HEMP IN FOOD PRODUCTS

    Hemp seeds contain all eight essential amino acids in the correct proportions required by humans, including Omega-6 (LA- linolenic) and Omega 3 (ALA alpha linolenic). Hemp has a balance of three parts Omega-6 to Omega-3, very close to the body's nutritional requirements. As regulators, the LA and ALA fatty acids provide stability and control the movement of all substances in and out of our bodies' building blocks. Gamma Linolenic Acid (GLA), another essential amino acid found in hemp, also stimulates the production of eiconsanoids, which are hormone-type substances. For this reason, many women find hemp oil in their diets helps relieve pre-menstrual syndrome and extreme symptoms of menopause.

    Some of the other benefits of having all these Essential Fatty Acids in the diet include an increased metabolism, lower cholesterol, better digestion, general vigor, improved skin and hair condition, and a boosted immune system.
     
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    Wow, old thread. I'm generally against prohibition and definitely am against it for marijuana. Some of the harder drugs like meth and LSD, I'm on the fence with when it comes to prohibition.
     
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    You're talking about industrial hemp, while a part of the cannabis family, it is not "marijuana", at least not the smoking kind.

    Hemp is not illegal to grow or sell AFAIK. I used it quite a bit in molds for casting bronze/plaster and other sculpture.

    Yes, hemp has many uses, none of which will get you high like marijuana.
     
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    Hemp is technically illegal to grow in most all the US as a special license is needed, a license that is not given out very often if my memory serves me correct. 'could be wrong'

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp#Countries_that_produce_hemp
     
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    I'm really not sure what the laws are regarding hemp growth or sale, but I can tell you that I have come across it quite easily and legally in the past. I have plaster cast for a telephone sculpture in my office right now. In the cast is hemp. We routinely mix hemp with plaster to strengthen it much like you would prestressed concrete with rebar.

    Anyway, you would not want to smoke hemp! You'd be better off getting high off burning a candle.
     
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