Weed, Pot, Marijuana.....Legalize it or not?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Daniel, Jun 3, 2005.

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Legalize it?

Poll closed Jun 10, 2005.
  1. I'd have it no other way!

    24 vote(s)
    54.5%
  2. Damn burnouts!

    20 vote(s)
    45.5%
  1. Trance-formation

    Trance-formation Peon

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    #281
    And having said all that, I want it legalised. I think it is hypocritical and harmful to criminalise those who choose to smoke. I would legalise heroin, LSD the lot. Then we can deal with the fall out as a reasonable and caring society. But a black and white series of generalisations doesn't serve the legalisation movement well, IMO :(
     
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  2. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #282
    Poppycock...decriminalized. As you suggest there are mental issues associated with the use of MaryJane...although I have not met the aquaintance of such.
    Now you want to legalize the lot :eek:. OMG, don't throw weed in with 'the lot'. If you wish I'll agree to alcohol and weed in the same 'lot'.

    It just seems a little hypocritical of you to, in one breath, say dope can cause you to beat up on your wife and in another say legalize it...the whole lot :confused:.
    Source

    The fact is either one is good for you but I will maintain that MaryJane is the lesser of the 2 evils and produces way less 'wife beaters' than:

    A) The majority of the Populous
    B) Alcoholics
    C) Criminals not associated with MaryJane use

    Cheers,
     
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  3. Trance-formation

    Trance-formation Peon

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    #283
    Tell you what... we can continue this when you stop constructively misquoting me.

    And when you can show me, or anyone else where I stated that
    , the poison of your choice is on me
     
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  4. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #284
    I think the problem is that society is so hectic. Sometimes you just need something to help you chill out :cool:
     
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  5. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #285
    Prayer and meditation?
     
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  6. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #286
    With all due respect, that's just not true. Some do. Many don't.

    Many spouse batterers don't drink to excess either. Substance abuse of various kinds may contribute to domestic violence but drugs or alcohol neither cause nor protect against domestic violence.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #287
    We have mums who reckon that blowing dope smoke up a babies nose keeps them quiet and protects them from violence
     
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    #288
    True, but drinking does increase violence and whilst it may not cause abuse, it plays a big part in how far things go..noones ever picked a fight with me that wasnt drunk.
     
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  9. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #289
    Wonderful. I can just imagine how much that is benefitting their central nervous systems :rolleyes:

    Would these be the same women who wouldn't take an aspirin when pregnant in case it damaged the foetus?

    Do I see a "Mother of the Year" coming for one of these women?

    Sheesh...

    None of this is directed at you, Sarah... just the concept, which enrages me. :mad:
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #290
    You've lived a sheltered life then.

    My point was that the dynamics of domestic abuse are independent of substance abuse, for the most part.

    It does seem to be true, however, that there is a significant association with aggressive behavior only for alcohol and PCP, but not much else in the way of commonly used/abused drugs.
     
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    #291
    Maybe, im just scary then ;) Sheltered?? The only shelter I had was a bus stop. Ha.. I was implying it generally takes a bit of 'dutch courage' before someone will raise a hand.

    Yes, somone content with life/themselves is far less likely to commit domestic abuse

    You missed cocaine..causes loads of violence.

    You dont see much violence from takers of LSD, Mdma, cannabis really.
     
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  12. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #292
    No, these girls have bigger things to worry about than a bit of asprin.
    phew ... though I have my moments when applying a calming agent to the kids would be great!
    had 6 kids out and about one day and my youngest was driving me mad and I was marching all 6 through a small group of shops when a woman walking the other way dropped a 5 cent coin.
    I didn't say anything, only 5c after all. Get around the corner, head count, crap, 1 missing. My darling boy, had picked up the 5c and raced back after the woman to return it.
    Big cuddle when he returned and told his story and made glad all over again that he's sharp as a tack and full of energy.
     
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    #293
    One of my sons disappeared from a toy store when he was about 4... trying to watch 3 kids in different aisles and he was the shortest.

    I thought he'd been kidnapped or something of course... just about frantic. Then a security guard got a call from a store on the other side of the mall -- we ran over and sure enough it was my son, who, when he spotted me, ran over, punched me in the 'nads (because they were right about fist level), and said in his best little angry voice, "You got lost!".

    It's times like those that you try hard to remember why it was you wanted children... :D
     
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    #294

    Ok, so I guess because I don't smoke pot, I live a sheltered life? If you're suggesting that pot is 'cool', then I guess I'm a loser. Because of pot, I had one of the worst experiences in my entire life. So sorry if I'd rather stay in my little 'box'. I much prefer it in here. :)

    By the way, I'm saying (typing) this with a smile on my face. My skin is a lot tougher than you might think. But I love a good argument.
     
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    #295
    My daughter at 3.5yrs, with long blond hair and blue eyes, pulled that stunt on my husband in Maceys in central Boston a week before Xmas.
     
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    #296
    legalize the weed!
     
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    #297
    Decriminalize (Homer managed to get that right) the lot... make it illegal to administer anything to minors or to anyone without their knowledge and consent. Take distribution from the hands of active criminals and terrorists. Open up treatment options for those for whom the activity of taking drugs becomes a problem in terms of addiction and mental illness.

    Or make it ALL illegal, which would at least be consistent. But IMO the former option forms the actions of a society I would most wish to live in.

    I currently work in a clinic where I have devised a 12 day alcohol detoxification and therapies programme. We also run a dedicated opiate detox programme based on naltrexone... the differing social classes we get through are interesting, but to a man (or woman) the dedicated ones coming throughthe heroin programme would have sought help a lot earlier if they were not frightened about the legality of their activity. They all seek reassurance that we will not tell the police.
     
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    #298
    Didn't they try that already in the US? I think it was called "Prohibition" and, if I remember my high school history and old TV shows and movies, I believe it was a resounding failure.
     
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    #299
    Indeed it is ;)
     
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    #300
    Just noticed your current blog title, Trance.

    It would be a lot funnier if it read...

     
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