If you want to make this about you, fine, but I explained myself. The regulation part is crap. Not your opinion. Have you checked your rep lately? We're on the same page and I was enjoying the debate. But it's not about you, it's about us disagreeing.
OMG! I'm not making this about me. I guess my whole point is... Anybody should have a right to their own opinion. I simply was trying to say that stating your opinion doesn't have to include insulting others who don't share the same opinion. I'm not just talking about me, I'm talking about everyone else who has been insulted or offended in this situation. Yes, I did check my rep...and I thank you. Maybe you think the regulation part is crap, as I'm sure many others do too...I was merely offering a suggestion. But in all honestly, you can't please everyone. If the legislature remains the same, there are going to be unhappy people. If pot becomes legal, then there will still be a lot of unhappy people. I was thinking that my suggestion could bring the whole situation a little closer to being a happier medium.
Sorry I couldn't read the entire thread but I get the point. Decriminalize it now, god damn it. Our native Indians discovered how Mary Jane was the secret to peace . Why does our government allow us to drink our silly faces off, yet you smoke a joint and you are a possessed demon on the brink of emotional breakdown? I honestly believe that if Bush sat down and had a puff once a week the US would not be in Iraq right now...with no end in site. In Canada we have a code we use amongst friends '4:20' in progress (police code for smoking a joint). Hmmm, it's after 4:20...gotta go . PS: I am a casual smoker.
I'm a Libertarian so I'm sure most don't have my views. But I believe personal responsibility lies with myself not the govt. As a matter of fact I think the govt is into way to many things with my life. If I want it, give it to me.
The problem with the libertarian stance, as I see it, is that one's actions also have consequences for others. I suspect we would agree about the role of government to a high degree, but should I bear the burden of the consequences of your actions? So if you have a psychotic reaction to cannabis use, who bears the consequences of your care and of your actions while thought disordered? While there is personal responsibility, there has to be some form of communal responsibility too IMO. Boring, I know, but hey I've known a fair few mountain climbers over the years, some of whom have died as a consequence of their sport and left behind families with young children. I wouldn't want them to be denied their recreational and personal development activity, but I do hope that, when engaging in that activity, they are aware of the potential consequences for others as well as themselves... that is taking responsibility, considering the consequences, in the light of true knowledge of the risks.
Your taking my words out of context, I said my personal responsibility. If I smoked a joint and went and took my car out for a drive then I would be effecting others and I would have to re-evaluate the consequences of my actions. Sort of like alchohol, its legal but some still put others in danger. And to your psychochotic reaction statement, I can have that by doing anything. Once again its to each his own, and your going to engage in things that have "risk" then you must take a risk you can handle.
You'll love it, it's a way of life. And back to the topic, sort of. Weed(s), now that I think about it should be made illegal. I hate to weed, and just think of all the pesticides we can avoid by doing this. By the same token, I refuse to go visit my states department of aging and get an aging licence. Pot(s), well I see them use these in the restraunts I goto to prepare the food I ordered in, I like to eat a couple of times a day, so keep these legal for sure!! Majijuana, make it legal. The war on drugs, it is a war on a countries own citizens. Being illegal it attacts criminals and leads people to crime just to pay the inflated prices it being illegal brings. Of course if you do something that harms someone else while high, the full force of the law against what you did should be brought to bear.
OK, better understood.... FWIW I support the decriminalisation of ALL drugs for recreational and personal research purposes.
Er... No, no, he's clean now, right, right I'm definitely with the libertarians on this one. Pot is less harmful than alcohol, period. It's not harmless, and people can abuse it, but that doesn't mean the government should have the final say. Also, weeds... funny that one. What defines a weed? The plants you don't want in your garden, right? So what defines a "drug" (in the illegal sense)? The drugs the government doesn't want its citizens to have access to for some reason or another. It's not about safety. If people cared about safety that much they wouldn't let us drive formula 1 cars, go base jumping, drink, drive, cycle, surf, swim, etc....
answer FYI: Did you know that MaryJane is the only plant/ weed on gods green earth that emits a 'purple' glow under infrared lights? -Sgt. Sedanco-
sorry Noppid I wasn't there to join you in battle.. It seemed like you handle everything ok. Its unreal that people think because our culture says something is wrong that is the general ruling. That is so close minded. Morgansmom.. I am sorry about the story with your husband. I am sorry that weed effected him that way, however just because it effect's him a certain way it doesn't mean that everyone is effected that way and or it should be considered a problem for society. And your whole L-a-w-s thing thats just B.S. alchohal abuse is the most devistating thing and it is legal.. once again Stoners dont batter there wives. please open up the box and try to peek your head out there is very cool things out there. I am sure I offended people.....sorry... thicken the skin.
Now that IS bullshit. Stoners, drinkers, they are all only people. People batter people. I've smoked, I've hung out with people who've smoked, I've hung out with guys who came out of prison after 3 year stretch for GBH who smoked and didn't drink. I've worked in prison with inmates who were serving sentences for violent crime who would classify themselves as dopeheads. Lets kill the generalisations and talk some sense, instead of infantile propaganda
All I think my friend Spicolli is try to say is it's a matter of choice. If it doesn't effect anyone else and ails you what's the big deal Many of the people I associate with, doctors and lawyers included, enjoy the odd puff. I, myself, have NEVER met a violent dope smoker. Yet I have met MANY violent drunks. I agree with you on this one That applies whether you're a dope smoker or not...nothing to do with the original post<shrug> Peace Man
The claim, totally unsubstantiated, was .. once again Stoners dont batter there wives. Bull... propaganda
The fact is that alcohol causes increased aggression and violence. I think it's pretty hard to disagree with that. Here's some decent info, not great, but I'm at work: http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/aa38.htm Pot causes memory loss, decreased mental capacity in the short term. In general, there is no association between marijuana and violence that I've ever seen first hand or published. Please show me any evidence you're aware of.
Not my point... I simply object to the generalisation that dopesmokers don't beat up their wives. It's simply not true. I acknowledge, and have already acknowledged elsewhere in this thread, that alcohol results in far more social problems than cannabis. But I refuse to go along with this propagandist generalisation that all dopeheads are lovely flowery people who wouldn't harm a fly bollocks. Many are. Not all. Though, as it happens, as a psychiatric nurse who has worked in forensic psychiatry (mentally disordered criminal offenders) for many years I do have experience of people becoming violent as a consequence of mental disturbance as a direct result of smoking dope. In each case the aggression has most likely been a consequence of fear caused by extreme paranoid thought disorder, but it has been violent behaviour warranting their detention none the less.
I see your point. I admit I haven't read through the entire thread, shoulda done my homework I also agree with the paranoia thing. I actually had a friend who smoked way too much pot, and became convinced that all his friends were talking about him behind his back, even though we weren't. Now there were also some other issues involved, and he was also on anti-depressants at the time.