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Discussion in 'Sites' started by etishere, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. #1
    c'mon all you guys selling websites- how about lifting your game and actually giving us a reasonable amount of information in the opening post.

    Im sick of going to a site for sale post and seeing no URL, no BIN, no first bid details, no revenue announcement.

    You know what we want - if you dont understand it then have a look at the hundreds of posts relating to sales of websites.

    In your opening post I would expect to see the following - as a minimum...

    1) URL of the site - there is no secret. If you want to use a shortening url thats fine, but I need to be able to go to the website before considering it any further.

    2) What is your opening price for bidding and what is your BIN? Often we see guys bidding $10 or $20 only to be rudely told by the owner in a subsequent post that they are laughable and he wont consider anything less than $3000.
    If thats the figure you had in your mind - then put it in your opening post and those of us looking for $10 sites wont bother you.

    3) If the site is new and has no revenue - just tell us up front. It shouldnt be a guessing game.

    4) If the content is not original - tell us.I dont care if the scripts are free and all over the internet - but just tell me up front.

    Im sure there are others who would add to this list.

    Its not a game. If you want us to buy your site it needs to be presented professionally and that means as much information as is possible.

    So how about it - can you guys lift your game a bit and make it easier for us to buy your websites :)

    see ya
    ET
     
    etishere, Feb 19, 2009 IP
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  2. Carlx

    Carlx Active Member

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    #2
    Serious sellers will have all this information. But you are correct many people think by leaving out information for whatever reason will make their site more appealing. They think by not telling the buyer that they have a nulled script with stolen content, no traffic and no revenue that we will be some how impressed ... impressed enough to bid thousands for crappy websites!

    The more information you can provide the better for both the buyer and the seller. As a serious seller, the first job you have is to weed out the tyre kickers from the serious buyers, the best way to do this is to give as much information, disclose exactly what you are willing to let the website sell for and then go from there. As soon as the tyre kicker see's the high $xxx or $x,xxx figure they are less likely to bother you.

    Good post, could do with cleaning up, making a little more tidy and then sticky'ing it for all to read!
     
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    xplicit702 Active Member

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    #3
    Dekker already has a very good "Sticky" post related to this topic.
     
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    Carlx Active Member

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    #4
    Yet so many people seem to completely over look it! - It's always going to be impossible to make every seller provide all the information needed in every topic.
     
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    m0nkeymafia Well-Known Member

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    #5
    I totally agree, unfortunately if people won't even ready the sticky I doubt this thread will help.

    It's their loss as it will just infuriate buyers, or make them trust the seller less.
    I find it very hard to trust anything anyone says on here when looking to buy sites, I guess this isnt helped by the lack of information you are talking about.
     
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  6. triphp123

    triphp123 Well-Known Member

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    #6
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    asmodeus Notable Member

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    #7
    I do agree with you, but from a sellers point I also think that buyers should do more research themselves. When I'm looking to buy a site I also check many sources to come up with my own site evaluation to see if it's worth a bid from me.

    I always wonder about a potential buyer who will ask for the expiry date on a domain when he SHOULD be checking the whois himself as part of a basic background check. I almost got scammed myself on here by a guy who had a site for sale that it turned out didn't even own. It was only by me emailing the owner listed in the whois that I learned this scammer had pulled the same scam before on DP. He was banned but I see he's back again. He's on my permanent list of people never to do business with on DP.

    Yes, the seller should give ALL the info listed by the OP, but the buyer should still do proper research and not take the info listed at face value.
     
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  8. etishere

    etishere Active Member

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    #8
    I think "sticky's" are a bit like ads.

    people develop a blindness to them - thus, a little refresher course every now and then cant go astray :)

    ET
     
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  9. triphp123

    triphp123 Well-Known Member

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    #9

    Good points, I agree with both.


    Its a human trate I guess! maybe VB can come up with a fix for that one...LOL!
     
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  10. bridanp

    bridanp Peon

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    #10
    100% correct on this post! My God Sellers, just give me the url so I can keep from wasting everyone's time with the pm's and whatnot. I'm looking through the posts for something interesting, but I'm faced with all this garbage "pm me for the url" crap.
     
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  11. ohreallymoney

    ohreallymoney Banned

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    #11
    Well I myself, trying to run a business and sell 4 sites can agree but disagree 2, sellers want free things, free review copies, $1 sites, well I worked hard on my websites, I will give them all the information they need, but noone is going to look twice at my topic, they go to people to critisize their sale, only for one of them to buy the site,
     
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    ramsport4x4 Peon

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    #12
    I won't ask the seller for information if he/she is so lazy not to post the information. Not posting the information tells me its a serious waste of time.

    I see so much garbage on here that people are trying to sell for a few hundred to a few thousand and they amount to nothing in terms of traffic or real content. Many of which I can slap together with a few minutes or hours of my own time without spending the money many are asking for. People are just out to make a quick buck.

    I do see a few quality sites here on DP. But I often have some suspicions about some of them. I'm not saying there are no legitimate sites for sale here. But the forum is hardly what I would call a professional environment to be buying and selling web sites.
     
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    hosters Active Member

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    The more information you have in your post the quicker you sell it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Revelations-Decoder Well-Known Member

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    #14
    I do SEO and can see more than one reason why posting the URL could work against the buyer, have you considered this apsect OP?

    Easily remedied by using a URL shortener of course but nevertheless posting a sites name and URL can have negative effects for the eventual buyer when it comes to search engines and SERPS.

    Must agree with comment about Whois though , well worth checking and finding out some extra info.

    I like http://whois.domaintools.com/ for whois - very handy little tool from DomainT0ols
     
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    ohreallymoney Banned

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    #15
    If you can make a site in a few minutes, go ahead, I am trying to sell 4 sites, each bin is going to be under $100, I am even throwing in 6 months hosting for 2 of my sites, free of charge! I know there are sellers who just want a quick buck, but then why does the buyer care on how much the site is making revenue wise?
     
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    ramsport4x4 Peon

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    #16
    Revenue tells a lot about the price the seller is selling for. That's why the buyer wants to know how much revenue the site is making. For many serious buyers there is no point in wasting $3000 on a site that makes $1 a day or less.

    Traffic is another thing to worry about. There are so many sites out there with fake stats as a result of running traffic campaigns that do little to nothing in getting a site ranked.
     
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    Scriptona Notable Member

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    asmodeus Notable Member

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    #18
    I understand the SEO aspect, as a thread for a site I bought on DP a few days ago shows up in Google right under the actual site in the SERP, but it depends on the type of site it is, as it hasn't hurt my income from it at all.
     
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