I think one of the main points being made here is that content buyers can't possibly expect to pay under $5 per article and still get completely original content that has been checked by an editor and Copyscaped. If you figure that it takes a BARE minimum of 30 minutes to write a piece of content, then you have to add on the time for editing and/or the price of having an editor look at the work, and the time needed to Copyscape the articles. This would total about an hour per article - at $5 per article or less, it's just not worth it for the writer to worry about original content. That's how it starts - a paragraph is pasted here, a sentence there. Some buy PLR articles and change a few things and submit them to clients as original content. I'm not saying higher-priced writers have never done this and have never provided poor service, but I am willing to bet that plagiarism happens far more often when a buyer is looking for content at the lowest possible price.
I found this thread while using StumbleUpon although I am certainly no stranger to DP. I won't add my comments as what has been said thus far is interesting enough. I won't give it my SU thumbs up either as I don't want to appear as if I am supporting penny-per-word projects. Sheesh!
writers like every one else is subject to competition and the price of the article is really decided by the market.if someone feels that their writing is more valuable then they should not accept the contract. like any other contract both side should agree to provide a service for a price and if the agreement is for an original article then that is what should be provided regardless of the cost and anything else is dishonest.
Yes, it is dishonest. But in the case being discussed here you have a very large market (webmasters) who want something very specific (very cheap, completely unique, well-written content). Given, not all want that, but I'd easily say the majority do. They don't bother to take the time to understand what has to go into meeting those needs, and so they don't budge on the price issue to meet a livable wage (especially the ones demanding native English speakers instead of offshore writers whose language quality might not suit them in a lot of cases). They have a false belief that if someone in India (for example) will write an article for $2, then someone in the US or UK should be able to do the same, but at better quality because they're native English speakers. That's not the way the market works. If they continue to make demands that they know are unrealistic, they also know they'll always get writers bidding with promises that can't be fulfilled in an ethical way (why they get rewritten, ripped, and stolen content). If that's how someone chooses to operate their business instead of paying for what they're demanding, they don't have the right to complain later like they're surprised that they were taken for a ride. If anything, they're the ones who created that market where dishonesty flourishes. Care more about quality than price alone, and you'll run into those problems far less often. Pressuring writers into feeling like they have to take lower wages to get any clients does nothing but make the problem worse on a large scale, and that's exactly what happens. It's much easier for people to whine, saying they've been screwed over by a writer, than it is for them to take any responsibility for their own ignorance and unrealistic expectations. In those cases, both are blame.
the price has a lot to do with quality of the work and my expectation from a $5 article and a $5000 article is totaly diffrent . there is a market for every price range but if a writer decides to accept a contract then he/she must fulfil the contract as specefied. as far as your support for the dishonest writers and excusing their behavior is counter productive for you as well as the people that buy the articles because now not only you have to deal with the poor quality writers but the scam artists as well. here is an example. you want to buy a diamond ring for $500 you expect it to be small but not stolen
First of all, I don't support dishonest writers. I just speak out against the often manipulative group of clients that pressure new writers and lie to new writers, making them believe that crap rates for perfect content are the norm, when they're unrealistic goals, and what often force writers into looking for "short cuts." The problem doesn't equate to your example there about a ring. Clients in these cases know very well that there's a good chance at least part of the work will be stolen, but they don't care. Either that, or they don't bother to educate themselves enough about the line of work they're in to know how it works, which is beyond unprofessional. As long as webmasters and others create a market where thieves can thrive and real professionals can't compete, they're going to continue to get lousy and ripped work. That's the reality of the situation. I'm not saying it's OK for writers to lie and steal at all. But it's also not OK for clients to make half of the demands that they do for peanuts. They created the market, and they'll have to live with it or start paying more. The decent writers get out of that market and never look back. Expecting their quality for crap rates is just stupid business. And considering the client is the one risking being sued after publishing the content (and since many of the writers are in locations where the client couldn't later legally touch them), it's twice as stupid, b/c they're putting their own business at risk.
This particular market wants to buy a carat diamond ring for $500 and they expect it to be 14K gold with 2 carat diamonds, perfectly sized, with a lifetime money-back guarantee. Where would anyone get a ring like that for that price unless it was stolen or counterfeit? The demands are all there in the "selection guide" the OP wrote. They expect quality content, original, edited by a third-party, copyspaced, with all rights relinquished, "grade-A content, 100% of the time" for pennies per word. It is highly unlikely that any webmaster will get all that for $10/article. If they're getting it now, they won't get it for long. Smart, capable writers soon realize they could be making a lot more money, without all the outrageous demands.
i do not have a problem with a cheap being poor quality and i am sure most of the people that buy them know that but fo it being perjury is not an option and i think the article writers that do that must be exposed
a customer can go in a jewlery store and say i want to buy a 1 carat diamond for $10 the jewler sells him a stolen one jewler gets arrested for selling stolen merchendise the buyer is considered a moron but wont go to jail unless he asked for a stolen diamond the point is that a lot of people just need low quality articles but not a stolen one for link building and a majority of them will never be looked at again so the quality is not important at all
The point is that a lot of those writers don't even know that what they're doing is stealing, and where they're located it may very well not be. A lot of writers (and buyers) don't know that rewriting someone else's article is illegal in places. But if the site owner is in a location where it's illegal, they're responsible for publishing it. They may or may not be able to then hold the writer responsible. The fact of the matter is that they're often ignorant of the legalities of their own business model. If they knew the difference and how they could be held liable for stolen work, I'd bet some would certainly pay more for quality work. Quality is always important to anyone who is serious about a content-oriented business. Poor quality equals low return visitors, damage to the site and owner's reputation, and possible legal consequences if it happens to be ripped. If someone's not bright enough to know the business they're in, they don't belong there... simple as that.