Web Site For Sale - Serious Offers Only

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Before you make an offer we want to make sure that everyone understands that the buyer should continue to market the web site as we have - or even do more marketing.

We do not believe the site will maintain its earning level if it was just left alone. So the buyer should expect, and be able to put 10-15 hours per week into the web site. We also believe if more work were put into the business it has a lot of growth potential.

On Monday evening we will contact everyone who has made an offer and let them know the highest offer received so they can have a chance to re-bid. We will then wait until Wednesday to notify the person who has the highest bid of those received.

 

By "datamining" do you mean scraping the content of web sites, or do you mean something else?

The source of the data would need to be very clear for anybody buying it (apart from anything else, so that it can be regularly updated).

 

I would like to bid on the site, but I also would need to know how the data is attained first. Please post, or PM me.

Thanks.

 

We crawl for the data in much the same way a search engine does. We primarily develop small search engine sites driven by data we compile - for companies that can afford it. As we crawl we retrieve a lot of information that isn't used in the search engine databases, and most of this extra information is parsed and compiled for other uses - like business records and residential records.

As for updating, we can provide the updates - or there are dozens of companies that can provide similar data.

We are not including any free updates to the web site - especially considering that the highest bid is $4,900, and the site has made $3,480 so far this month. We would need a much better bid before we consider providing free updates.

But in case anyone is wondering, an update with resale rights would cost about $4,500 if you buy it from us - and about $25,000+ if you bought similar content from our competitors.

 

Bids accepted through today (Monday). PM with any questions you have that are not already covered here.

The sales page is updated through yesterday: http://4mysql.com/sales.htm

Once again, these sales numbers are guaranteed accurate.

 

(removed as requested - and, yes, I was interested in buying the site).

 

So, are the site sold ?

 

The web site is not sold yet - we were asked by a few bidders to extend to sale a few more days.

morewords, you shouldn't do two things:

1. Never Presume anything
2. Don't post on a thread that is selling something unless you are interested in the item for sale, or have proof of a fraud.

I appreciate your concern, but we do not gather our data from any yellowpage-type site. And I am sure they have safeguards in place to track this type of behavior. And none of these online yellow page sites have "complete" data. They have listings we don't have and we have listings they don't have.

morewords, you wrote:
You are prohibited from data mining, scraping, crawling, or using any process or processes that send automated queries to the YELLOWPAGES.COM Web site.". Switchboard, allpages and yp.com have similar terms

So if they don't permit crawling -why does yellowpages.com have 400,000+ pages in Google's Index, and 1.7 Million pages in Yahoo?

Switchboard in Google: 544,000 pages indexed
Switchboard in Yahoo: 2.5 Million pages indexed

Business and Residential data is publically available and dozens of sources on the Internet, such as Axiom, Hoovers, InfoUSA (who Yahoo uses), and others compile it and lease or sell it. Where do you think local phone books get their information? Even odditysoftware, who posts sales here occasionally, has the data. What makes us different is that we do not gather as much business info as they do, and so our prices are lower.

Typically in this business - what people buy is the convenience. We sell a restaurant database that has 645,000+ records. It sells for less than $30. Of course you can get the information youself - but how long will it take you to add 645,000 records into a database? If you entered one record every 5 seconds - it would take you 895 hours, or 37 days if you worked at it for 24 hours a day.

 

This web site has recorded $4,490 in sales in January.

If we get no further acceptable offers by Feb 2nd we will be keeping the site and developing it further.

I also updated the sales page: http://4mysql.com/sales.htm

 

can u PM me full revenue breakdowns and proof? im very interested in this.

 

You can see the sales at http://4mysql.com/sales.htm

This can be backed up with PayPal data - since all payments went through PayPal.

 

Some items show a quantity in stock.

What is the cost of the databases for you?

How do you restock if something sells out? Buy more licenses?

Some people buy multiples of the same database. How do you police if someone uses a DB more than once?

Some say 24-48 hours for delivery. I assume the information is pulled from somewhere somehow - how is this done and is it automated?

 

Lorien1973,

Very good questions.

The quantity is just a tracking method we use - so there are really unlimited copies.

The cost of the data is zero - other than the labor to collect and zip the info.

We will continue to provide updates to the buyer, for a yearly fee of $450. There will be 2 updates a year - and you can post them both if you want. However, a yearly update for businesses is typically okay. Residential records should be updated 2 times a year - since they change a lot more often.

We have a tracking record in all the databases - so if someone uses the databases and their sites get crawled we can do an exact search via the search engines and find the web sites that use the content. But we have actually never had a problem - and the people who buy the databases typically want to develop a web site for themselves or add to an existing web site - and they don't want a bunch of copies out there. There is much more value to them by using the databases as content rather than selling copies.

As for the 24-48 hour custom databases - it actually takes about 5 minutes to pull the data and have it ready. But this is not our core business and even a 5 minute task needs to be scheduled. We use the same program we offer online to compile the custom databases: http://4mysql.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=19&products_id=175

This program pulls from all of our datastores, and is a really exciting program we had hoped people would want to use. But there is only 1 customer who uses it.

 

Some of the zipcode ones say updated january 2007. Does the site update records from given sources?

Cost of advertising? Do you pay for traffic or is it all natural right now?

 

The zip code data is from the USPS, and this is the only data that comes from a third party. Canadian records are also dated differently - and this is because we weren't going to offer Canadian records when we first started. So when we decided to add them - the data was compiled later.

We don't pay for advertising or traffic. We only post on forums 1 or 2 times a week - DP being the main one, under Content. We had been writing tech articles related to PHP and MySQL and submitting it to Digg.com once a week - but we have been slacking off in that area.

 

Best offer to date is $7500.00.

We will take offers through Friday, February 2nd.