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Web Hosting Pad Scam EXPOSED!

Discussion in 'Commission Junction' started by webtechnologies, Jul 25, 2010.

  1. #1
    Dear Fellow Affiliate Marketers,
    I am writing today to Inform You about a Scam , me,and My girlfriend fell for.

    We were working with a few web hosts through commission Junction.
    Earning a fair amount of commission..

    Mostly referring our web design clients to various web hosts,such as Ipage, Hostgator, Web Hosting Pad, etc..

    When we referred one of Our clients to web hosting pad,
    we noticed the sale didnt go through..

    so we contacted WHP , telling them that the signup was one of our clients,and expected to see a commission from them for it.

    They immediately stated that most signups that dont go through are because they are "fraud".

    I guess paying customers are "fraud"?

    anyways,
    They stated that they would like us to join their "IN HOUSE" affiliate program,and that they would add the "missing" commission there.

    So we did, we joined their "IN HOUSE" affiliate program

    See whp did this so that they could avoid their CJ fees,and further fraud us , by stealing even more commissions.

    We made some sales in their "in house" affiliate program, only to see them dissapear, a few days later...

    when asked why our commissions dissapeared, they gave us the same crap!

    Oh these are fraud,etc,etc.
    But the sites remained online...

    So we said, well if these are fraud, then why are You still hosting them?
    Thats when the never responded, and took even MORE commissions out of our acct.

    So i would advise ALL of You to stay FAR away from this company.
     
    webtechnologies, Jul 25, 2010 IP
  2. webtechnologies

    webtechnologies Peon

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    and stay away from Greenville Host too!

    WHP owns them,and they run the same scam
     
    webtechnologies, Jul 25, 2010 IP
  3. andy.flintoff5

    andy.flintoff5 Active Member

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    #3
    Thanks for the warning, but I think most of us old web host affiliates know that webhostingpad are scammers. They don't even try to cover up for it, but do it blatantly. But yeah, new affiliates should be warned.

    They scammed me $1000s of dollars coupla years back, so I stopped promoting them.

    P.S. Didn't know they owned Greenville Host. Thanks for the info!
     
    andy.flintoff5, Oct 19, 2010 IP
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    jakd Peon

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    Thanks for the notice, I was considering adding their banners!
     
    jakd, Oct 21, 2010 IP
  5. biggunn

    biggunn Active Member

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    #5
    I have been working with WebHostingPad for a long time. I have had minimal issues, and the minor issues I did have were quickly addressed. Threads like this one are created by disgruntled affiliate promoters who don't know how to read an affiliate agreement.

    The best advise that can be given to a new web hosting affiliate is to always read the affiliate agreement. I promote different web hosting companies in different ways depending on the terms of their affiliate agreement. Promote honestly and within the rules, and you won't be in the same boat as andy or 'webtechnologies'
     
    biggunn, Oct 22, 2010 IP
  6. webtechnologies

    webtechnologies Peon

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    I Beg to differ sir,
    we were sending our web design clients to them,and our web design clients paid for the year upfront.
    however when it came time to put our commissions in our account, WHP took forever,and tried claiming all of our signups were scams.

    Its as simple as not being able to afford to pay , for Your advertised commission rate.

    If Your web hosting costs $50 per year
    and Your paying Your affiliates $150 per commission,

    You would quickly run out of money right?

    So why not just ask Your affilliates to come into Your in house program, so You can take away any of the commissions as You see fit?
    or whenever You'd like?
     
    webtechnologies, Oct 22, 2010 IP
  7. flight05

    flight05 Active Member

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    im sad to say it but hostgator has done the same
     
    flight05, Oct 22, 2010 IP
  8. biggunn

    biggunn Active Member

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    That story just doesn't add up... The whole point of affiliate marketing is to grow the renewal base. That is how they make money.
     
    biggunn, Oct 22, 2010 IP
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    dlow Peon

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    ty for looking out :p
     
    dlow, Oct 23, 2010 IP
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    scriptinstaller Peon

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    #10
    If you were scammed file a rip off report. If they are violating CJ agreement, I guess you can notify CJ?

    Find more and better affiliate programs. Can I ask where you find affiliate programs to use? I recently launched our own, and I need to start marketing it
     
    scriptinstaller, Oct 24, 2010 IP
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    jivens Peon

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    thanks for the notice! cheers!
     
    jivens, Oct 24, 2010 IP
  12. HowDoYou

    HowDoYou Well-Known Member

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    #12
    Administrative Contact:
    WebHostingPad.com
    Web Hosting Pad (dns@webhostingpad.com)
    +1.8473461801
    Fax: +1.8473426299
    5005 Newport Dr
    Rolling Meadows, IL 60008
    US

    looks like there in the US, give them a phone call. :)

    Also, looks like the Better Business Burrow gives them an F.


    Remember, as an affiliate marketer, you should always do a little research about the company you are promoting, why would you want to even begin reffering your customers to this business?! THEY ARE A VERY BAD BUSINESS, AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THERE DOING! - Stay away, and keep your prized customers away.


    http://www.bbb.org/chicago/business...hosting-padcom-in-rolling-meadows-il-88274902

    Reasons for this rating include:

    * 134 complaints filed against business
    * Failure to respond to 12 complaints filed against business.
    * 5 complaints filed against business that were not resolved

    These complaints concerned :
    + 9 regarding Advertising Issues

    1 - Advertised price not honored
    1 - Advertised terms not honored
    1 - Advertisement did not disclose all conditions required to take advantage of an offer
    5 - Bait & switch advertisement
    1 - False or unsubstantiated claims in advertisement
    + 52 regarding Billing or Collection Issues

    9 - Failure to correct billing errors
    1 - Failure to provide itemized billing as requested
    13 - Improper collection practices
    8 - None of the Above - Credit, Billing or Collection Complaint Issue
    5 - Unauthorized bank debits
    16 - Unauthorized credit card charges
    + 4 regarding Contract Issues

    2 - Failure to honor a contract or agreement
    1 - Invalid or false contract
    1 - None of the Above - Contract Complaint Issue
    + 12 regarding Customer Service Issues

    5 - Failure to provide promised assistance or support for products or services
    3 - Failure to respond to phone calls or written requests for assistance or support
    4 - Inappropriate behavior by customer service personnel
    + 2 regarding Delivery Issues

    1 - Delivery of unordered services
    1 - None of the Above - Delivery Complaint Issue
    + 2 regarding Guarantee or Warranty Issues

    1 - Failure to honor money-back guarantees
    1 - Failure to honor service under the terms of warranties
    + 3 regarding Product Issues

    1 - Defective, damaged, or incorrect product received
    2 - None of the Above - Product Quality Complaint Issue
    + 23 regarding Refund or Exchange Issues

    9 - Failure to honor promised refunds, exchanges, or credit
    8 - Failure to honor refund, exchange or credit policies
    6 - None of the Above - Refund or Exchange Complaint Issue
    + 2 regarding Sales Practice Issues

    1 - Sales presentation used dishonest sales practices
    1 - Sales presentation used high pressure methods
    + 25 regarding Service Issues

    5 - Failure to honor service estimate or agreement
    14 - Improper or inferior service
    6 - None of the Above - Service Complaint Issue

    These complaints were closed as:
    + 88 Resolved

    35 - Company resolved the complaint issues. The consumer acknowledged acceptance to BBB.
    53 - Company addressed the complaint issues. The consumer failed to acknowledge acceptance to BBB.
    + 5 Unresolved

    5 - Company failed to resolve the complaint issues through BBB voluntary and self-regulatory process.
    + 29 Administratively Closed

    26 - BBB determined the company made a reasonable offer to resolve the issues, but the consumer did not accept the offer.
    3 - BBB determined that despite the company's reasonable effort to address complaint issues, the consumer remained dissatisfied.
    + 12 No Response
     
    HowDoYou, Oct 24, 2010 IP
  13. webtechnologies

    webtechnologies Peon

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    #13
    Were you there?
    Did you sit right with us the whole time while whp scammed us?

    I didnt see you there.
    did you see me?

    I dont think you should judge our situation as if you have sat there with us, and know our whole story.

    It sounds like you work for whp the way you are shilling my thread with your oppositional point of view.

    I would rather not argue with you so I ask politely for you to kindly respect my thread and allow us to openly talk about the way we were SCAMMED by whp.

    Thank You
     
    webtechnologies, Oct 24, 2010 IP
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    webtechnologies Peon

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    Thank You , You are very welcome, feel free to post any experience you might have had with them.
     
    webtechnologies, Oct 24, 2010 IP
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    sufia Active Member

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    Thank you for post. also add hostpapa They dont any bucks for 4 sales.all are my friends.and i recommend to them but they dont paid

    Beware from hostpapa also.
     
    sufia, Oct 26, 2010 IP
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    No, hostgator did not, they counted my sales several times but i guess they refused those who just signed up for 1 month free
     
    myclip, Oct 26, 2010 IP
  17. ibanezgrx1

    ibanezgrx1 Well-Known Member

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    #17
    Another scammer is 1 and 1 . They directly scam their customers and affiliates. The hosting affiliate industry is flooded with cheaters. I don't know why CJ don't ban these advertisers cause the chuck publishers at every other reason.
    @flight05 Hostgator is not scam. They are one of the legit hosting affiliates. THey extend all sales to see if the customer has renewed or not. Its in their policy. They do not pay if service is not renewed to the second month.
     
    ibanezgrx1, Oct 30, 2010 IP
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    spy100 Well-Known Member

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    thanks for the warning ,wanted to try it but now i will not:)
     
    spy100, Oct 30, 2010 IP
  19. wize_one_721

    wize_one_721 Peon

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    #19
    "If Your web hosting costs $50 per year
    and Your paying Your affiliates $150 per commission,

    You would quickly run out of money right?"


    You had a hunch it was a Scam with this comment. So why are you suprised now.? just curious.
     
    wize_one_721, Oct 31, 2010 IP
  20. webtechnologies

    webtechnologies Peon

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    Because all hosting companies do the same thing, "WIZE ONE".

    and I didnt say I was surprized, did I ? Wize One?
     
    webtechnologies, Oct 31, 2010 IP