Hello... I have been researching the majority of web directory giants and have found many older Directories as well as High PR directories dropping on the average of 1 PR Level as can be seen here.... Worldhot.com........................ PR7 Now PR6 Elib.org................................. PR7 Now PR6 Webmasterlead.com................ PR7 Now PR6 Alivedirectory.com.................. PR7 Now PR6 Femina.com............................PR7 Now PR7 or 0 Selfgrowth.com...................... PR7 Now Pr6 Goguides.org......................... PR6 Now PR5 wowdirectory.com.................. PR6 Now PR5 Haabaa.com........................... PR6 Now PR5 addalink.org............................PR6 Now PR5 all-linksite.com....................... PR6 Now PR5 allthewebsites.org.................. PR6 Now PR5 Webmasterdirectory.net.......... PR6 Now PR5 http://Sbd.bcentral.com................. PR6 Now PR5 Searchmonster.org................. PR6 Now PR5 Clarib.com.............................PR6 Now PR5 Vxbox.com.............................PR6 Now PR5 Siteranking.com......................PR6 Now PR5 Unadir.com........................... PR6 Now PR5 Gimpsy.com.......................... PR6 Now PR5 Webxperience.org.................. PR6 Now PR5 Somuch.com.......................... PR6 Now PR5 Anthonyparsons.com................ PR6 Now PR5 Thisisouryear.com................... PR6 Now PR5 Epitrope.com........................... PR7 PR6 Now PR5 canlinks.net............................ PR6 Now PR5 Nationaldirectory.com............... PR6 Now PR5 Corporatelistings.net................. PR6 Now PR5 The list was taken from the front page of http://webdirectorylist.smashingdir.com/ each was checked with http://www.digpagerank.com and out of 70 directories 30 lost Page Rank and 1 excellentguide.com gained a PR 7. As can be seen many of these directories are established and have been on the internet for a while and maintained thier PR till this update were many large names fell in rankings.... While i did hear of many getting PR6s and a few PR7s it is the fact that it happened to established directories. So why do you think that this happened? thx malcolm
This is very interesting information but with the mystique of the G algorithm I guess we will never know an exact reason
With a lot of promotions for one of my directory it got a PR5 or the other links were not counted. Funny is Guidelines is PR6 and Contact Page is PR5. Some detail pages are even PR5. As for my other directory with less promotion and runned with a different script it got a PR6 with categories at PR5 and inner at PR4. This is a VERY STRONG PR6. So I am confused.
Im thinking you guys missed my point.... Im wondering why the older more established directories took direct hits.. thx malcolm
Last year or the one before, there was a pr update that gave PR5's and PR6's to new sites with not many links. Meanwhile some more established sites went down. A month or so after, everything went back to normal. If I had to bet, I think we will see some changes both in those that lost PR for no reason and those who gained massive PR when they shouldn't have.
First I will like to thank you for taking the time to collect this data. Second I think there was a change on the PR calculation algorithm and IMHO is related to outgoing links.
That may be true. It did surprise me to see these forums dropping to a PR6. But it would fit into your theory.
I'd give it another full cycle before concluding that they "took a direct hit" It's not uncommon for a site's PR to fluctuate up and down a point from one update to the next. A direct hit would likely result in a significant drop. Also consider that the PR drop may have been insignificant: ie a PR6.02 prior and a 5.99 now.
Well i concur with your reasoning but ive yet to see this many Top directories loss any PR as MOST have here this round... I mean to say that as far as i remember these were always the top directories ( in which most still are ) But hard to belive.. "this many" - "this round".... Im wondering if its more like !Ask! said that they changed the algo or the number of links needed to move to the next level or vice versa were if they didnt have enough they dropped? or it could very well be like dkessaris mentioned about "paid Links" as most if not all are... thx malcolm
Well not sure what happened but good things happened to my directories , inner detailed pages got PR's this time, i mean the more detail page for website. Inner pages still got Pr's main pages have same PR's so good to see a solid PR for them stability at last lol. Well google pr is weird so one really cannot say or predict what actually happens, my 38 day old domain got PR4 so gawd knows how it goes over there at Google.
im just wondering how the hell alivedirectory goes PR7 to PR6?? this is so sad and annoying too. i thought alive will go PR8. but see what happens..... gosh you never know google
Agreed that when it comes to Backlinks alive is a monster and i doubt that anyone will come anywhere close to his links... I think google definatly screwed up that one but im confident chris will retain the PR7 or more next round thx malcolm
Think it may be because of not enough backlinks growth (except Alive) But once we collect a lot of backlinks, our site is nice, useful, good content; So what can be else done for Google? How long number of backlinks can be increased in regular number every update? Look at all those dirs. Are they worst of all those with new pr7 or pr 6? I don't think so. Each update it seems to be more crazy... And I wonder only why DMOZ is still same PR Backlinks dropped down, dir very simple, no content.... Have an idea. Let's work on our own DP Pagerank, something like PageStrength intended to be, but much better. Then let's go and tell the world good news! We have a power!
Very relevant point Car Manufacturers have associations etc Airlines have ticket cartels etc etc etc Directories should have an industry standard identifier set by the Directory Market Why not!
Well said! I think Google is not definitely supporting directories as if a directory like Alive goes PR7 in its inner pages it will easily pass on PR6-7 to its listings so a lot of sites may get about PR4 -PR5 very easily so only they have downgraded it I am also working on new algorthim some thing like that(DP page Rank) !
Google is not targeting directories, there are lots of high PR sites that are taking a hit ... MSN.com looks like it is dropping to PR8 from a PR9. Don't panic, this has been happening every second PR update for as long as I can remember ... It has to do with the total number of pages being ranked, and trying to scale all of the pages over the 10 ranks. As more pages are included in the calculations the curve has to be adjusted downward. Obviously the higher page rank sites will be more sensitive to changes in the curve then lower ranking sites, so the differences will be more obvious there.
In 2 weeks, i'll be updating my PR's for my WebDirectoryList.... (I am thinking their will be another big PR update Push soon) I think/hope their will be another wave of pr updates Anyone else think their will be another PR Update Wave?
if i'm not wrong, i believe that there seems to be a general observation of the past few updates, that google is making the criteria for each pagerank more and more difficult. I think that this is going to be the general trend as more and more websites catch hold of this concept of pagerank and since the pagerank 'pie' is fixed, i.e. 10 pieces, google will need to find a way to regulate it such that they will not get an overcrowding of mature sites at the top levels. At least that's my hypothesis.....