web 2.0 + article marketing

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by prolife, Nov 6, 2009.

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    to all professional marketeers I am trying to get my head around using web 2.0 sites like squidoo, weebly and others in creating a link wheel and promoting 1) my landing page and 2) my articles.

    What is the best practice for this?

    appreciate any feedback given on this.
     
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  2. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    read posts in this forum?
     
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  3. Crafty Blogger

    Crafty Blogger Active Member

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    You can check out Lemonarian's link wheel report - it's free, and you can opt out of his email list later. It explains it pretty well:
    http://lemonarian.com/linkwheel

    One thing you need to think about is whether you decide to close the loop or not on your linkwheel. Some recommend you leave it open, so you can just keep on expanding it over time and to avoid a (possible - but very debatable) penalty if Google discovers it...
     
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    Squidoo isn't as effective anymore and I stopped using it long ago.

    There's a much better way to get your articles promoted, get them links for other article directories, social bookmarking sites, forums.. and directly link your landing page in the bio box. This method should get you some sales sand it can easily be scaled up depending on how much you're open to invest.

    Al./
     
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  5. prolife

    prolife Peon

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    @ Crafty Blogger - thank you- I will check out the link and subscribe.
    I don't know what you mean exactly by leaving the link open - I'll see if I can the answer from the link you provided me with.
    @ precious007 - thanks for advice.

    Here's where I am having difficulty grasping this wheel linking:
    I want to promote a) the article and b) the landing page.

    I choose 6 of the web 2.0 properties.

    So what happens next?

    Step: 1 - I promote the article on hubpages with 1 link going to the main article and the 2nd link to my landing page.
    Step 2 I then go onto another web 2.0 site and post a summary of the same article and have 1 link pointing to what (the hubpage I created above +landing page ?) or (ezine main article + landing page?).
    STEP 3 - I continue doing the same thing for the same article with a few other web 2.0 sites.

    This is what I am not sure about... STEP 2

    again - thanks for your comments.
     
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  6. Crafty Blogger

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    All your web 2.0 property will point to you main site plus the next 2.0 property on your link wheel. So, for example, you have a squidoo page that points that to your main site plus a hub page. Your hub page points to your main site and a blogspot page. The blogspot page to your main site and an weebly page and so forth. Lemonarian has some good diagrams showing exactly how this works, BTW, so once you take a look at it, it should be clear.

    In terms of open and closed: You have the option of creating a closed loop, where you link your last property back to your first (which is what Lemonarian's guide suggests), or just keeping the link wheel "open" and continue to add new 2.0 properties to it over time, never linking the last and first together. Hope that helps.
     
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  7. prolife

    prolife Peon

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    @ Crafty Blogger - Ok I get it now. You always link to the "next" one and you are pushing up your landing page all the time.

    So really for creating backlinks to the main article you would use the other "do follow" article directories and use the web 2.0 for creating backlinks to the landing page.

    Got you now.

    How often can I do this daily? Is there a rule as to how many web 2.0 backlinks i can create a day to avoid getting banned/slapped by Google?


    I got the ebook from Lemonarian - I'll browse that next. Thanks again for clarifying this for me.
     
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  8. Crafty Blogger

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    There's a lot of debate about how many backlinks you can do a day and not be in danger of a Google slap, but if you are doing a dozen a day or so I would think you would be fine. I haven't had any problems with 10-20 backlinks a day of various different forms (2.0 properties, forums, articles, etc.), and some people say you should be able do hundreds a day without a problem. You will, however, often see your site start to "dance" around once you've started doing some backlinking in terms of where it is in the SERPs, but usually it will settle down in a week or two. So if you site suddenly drops for a week or two, don't panic - it will usually come back stronger in another week or two.
     
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  9. prolife

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    good to know - thanks again for the advice.
     
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    Yes, doing hundreds are not a problem. Today I changed my signature link and suddenly your website will receive 300+ links and google cant ban you for that and it understands
     
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    remember, hubpages isn't as easy as it looks!

    you need a hub score of 75 and above to get a dofollow link, otherwise it will be a nofollow. so 0/10 for link juice.

    to get a higher hub score you need to get people to 'thumb up' your hub, leave comments and you (as a hubber) must also contribute on the forum, helping newbies and such! this will increase your hubber score, thus leading to increasing your HUB SCORE!

    so that hubpages.... you won't just write an article and that's all hoping to make the perfect linkwheel! you need to work on that hub to make it dofollow!

    and on squidoo (i think, not so sure) your lens needs to be featured to get a dofollow... do some research for yourself, don't take this info for granted.

    cheers :)
     
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  12. Crafty Blogger

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    There are literally dozens of different 2.0 properties that you can use, just do a search and you'll find a ton, but you should always check the properties and make sure that the links are dofollow, otherwise your purpose will be defeated. (this seems obvious to me, but just in case it's not...)

    A lot of people like to use Hubpages because they rank high easily, but as EvilPuppy says, you need a writers score of 75 for the links to be dofollow. I found this not to be hard - just write a couple of hubs, browse the forums and leave some posts, and notes and feedback on some other peoples hubs, and within a couple of days you should reach that score. You'll have to continue to visit from time to time and participate to keep you score up, but it isn't hard and well worth the link juice you get from a hubpage.

    Another downside of Hubpages is that they are pretty strict about "self-promotion" and you can leave only two links max in your hub (which need to be to a landing page, not a clickbank page).

    If you don't want to be bothered, however, there are many other possibilities out there. Some people will have link wheels of 50 properties or more all pointing back to their landing page!
     
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  13. prolife

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    @Crafty Blogger
    @ evilpuppy
    I didn't know any of these... there's so much more to this.
    I'll take the advice on board and stay active.
    thanks again.
     
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  14. evilpuppy

    evilpuppy Well-Known Member

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    you see...

    the thing is people tell you 'put article on EZA, put same article on 10 web 2.0 properties, link back to the article and your landing page and you'll become a multi millionaire'.

    actually, it doesn't work like that.

    if you want to make serious money, you need to work hard and test things out, from investigating hubpages to tweaking your landing page.

    and here's a quote i love to use: "time creates value" :) with time you'll know these things!
     
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  15. prolife

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    i believe that to be true evilpuppy
    From tweaking your landing page to tweaking your resource box to tweaking your writing style, improving your keyword research, learning new techniques and learning seo.
    I think seo is where it's at..
    thanks again for your replies.
     
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    I'm not so sure that creating link wheels and so forth is time well spent. It can take a very long time to see results from this.

    Sometimes it's better to go for the quick traffic from article marketing, blog commenting etc. to see if the web page will actually convert.
     
    10:33, Nov 8, 2009 IP