Weapon Ambargo to israel !

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ziya, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. uploas

    uploas Peon

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    #21
    hmm... so sad. all you see is the pictures of children in gaza. you don't see the bigger threat - Hamas.
    and just for you know - Israel suffers too.
     
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  2. nancy_18am

    nancy_18am Peon

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    #22
    how come israel suffer
    israel used international banned weopons against children in gaza and lebanon
    the arab children burned by israelian white phosphorus , daim and gpu 39 bombs.
    who suffer now
     
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  3. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #23
    Israel did not used banned weapons against children.
    Israel legally used white phosphorus.

    Where is your condemnation of the terrorist Hamas who risk the lives of Palestinians civilians by illegally and in violation of International law firing from civilian areas?

    You sound like a typical Muslim who only sees the bullshit on your news which makes everything the Palestinians do just and honorable and everything the Israelis do as evil and intended to cause maximum harm.

    I suggest you read some unbiased news and get a clue what is actually happening. Like most of the world, Palestinians are being terrorized by Islamic extremists. One day the world will rise as one to fight Islamic Terrorists.
     
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  4. nancy_18am

    nancy_18am Peon

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    #24
    excuse me but white phosphorus is abanned weapon in area s contain civillians
    and i think we destroyed muslim countries without reason
    we kill them with cold blood to take their oil and say they are terrorist
    and in gaza hamas is alegal resistance they consider afreedom fighters
     
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  5. uploas

    uploas Peon

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    #25
    ohh, and if we would shoot in handgun, would you shut up?

    Dear Nancy, Gaza citizens elected Hamas.
    If they would really be "Freedom fighters" they won't pick a group who accept with raping women, kill gays, group who thinks that killing is OK, and kill anyone their "leaders" don't like.

    Israel targeted the bombs to any rocket launching area. but Hamas shoot from mosques, schools, UN buildings, but When Israel hurt innocent people, those people will get medical treatment in Israel.

    If IDF is going to bomb your building, you will get phone call 15 minutes before,and cash refund (if you will accept it, almost no one accept to take it) So, did the Hamas gave Israel citizens refund? Did the Hamas helped us build stuff for the community?
     
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  6. nancy_18am

    nancy_18am Peon

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    #26
    it is expected reply from some one defend for killing women and children
    did you ask your self why hamas launche their very small non effective rockets on israel
    israel begin with bombing gaza with huge uranium debleted bombs
    if hamas thinks killing is ok
    israel thinks killing is Sacred and duty she should do it daily with cold blood
     
    nancy_18am, Apr 25, 2009 IP
  7. uploas

    uploas Peon

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    #27
    I don't defend the operation in Lebanon, for example, it was too brutal.
    The operation in Gaza wasn't focused enough, because they continue with the weapon smuggling.

    they can't hit (they do hit, but didn't caused any hurts) because we build out houses from stronger and more expansive material, because we don't invest our money about rockets. it costs 900 ILS per rocket launch, and before the war there were days with 70-90 rockets. someone needs to pay..
     
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  8. new

    new Peon

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    #28
    doesn't isreal buy weapons and does it in broad day light ?

    Then why Palestinians can't have weapons ? how come one thing is legitimate for isreal to do and illegal for others ?
     
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  9. uploas

    uploas Peon

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    #29
    Palestinians can, Hamas and Gaza people can't.
     
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  10. new

    new Peon

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    #30

    and who are you to decide that :rolleyes:

    it is like France saying to Germany that you can't have this, this and this thing only Austria and France are allowed to have these


    and last time when I checked the people who lived and Gaza were also Palestinians
     
    new, Apr 25, 2009 IP
  11. nancy_18am

    nancy_18am Peon

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    #31
    just allow the food and feul to enter gaza
    israel make gaza abig preson
    it is a new Holocaust
     
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  12. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #32
    USA , Congressional Research Service's (CRS) : 8.4 billion dollars of arms deliveries to Israel in the 1997-2004 period, with fully 7.1 billion dollars or 84.5 percent coming from a single source: the United States.
    In 2006 : USA grants to Israel -- which totals about 2.3 billion dollars a year paid for by U.S. taxpayers.

    From a historical perspective, U.S. assistance to Israel during 1950-2005 has been staggeringly high: Foreign Military Financing (FMF) amounting to 59.5 billion dollars; 27 billion dollars in Foreign Military Sales (FMS) mostly government-to-government arms transactions; and eight billion dollars in commercial arms sales by the private sector.

    in 2006 :
    Israel has a total of over 378 F-16s, considered one of the world's most advanced fighter planes -- besides 117 F-15s, 94 Skyhawks, 110 Phantoms -- all supplied by the United States.

    in 2006 Stephen Zunes, professor of politics at the University of San Francisco :
    Israel was in violation of U.S. arms-control laws for deploying U.S.-made fighter planes, combat helicopters, and missiles to kill civilians and destroy Lebanon's infrastructure in the ongoing six-day devastation of that militarily weak country.

    The death toll, according to published reports, is over 200 people – mostly civilians – while the economic losses have been estimated at about $100 million per day.

    "Section 4 of the [U.S.] Arms Export Control Act requires that military items transferred to foreign governments by the United States be used solely for internal security and legitimate self-defense," says Stephen Zunes, professor of politics at the University of San Francisco.

    "Since Israeli attacks against Lebanon's civilian infrastructure and population centers clearly go beyond legitimate self-defense, the United States is legally obliged to suspend arms transfers to Israel,"
     
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  13. nancy_18am

    nancy_18am Peon

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    #33
    it is horrible to me when i see my money goes to be used in killing women and children
     
    nancy_18am, Apr 25, 2009 IP
  14. uploas

    uploas Peon

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    #34
    When Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, and Yemen does it, the world stay quit.
    What should we do against the rockets? shoot back on innocent people or bomb the launch site and hope that it won't kill innocents?
    ah, you probably want us to stay "neutrul" like Europe during the Holocaust, or like Turkey during the Armenian Genocide?
    We have to act back.
     
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  15. nancy_18am

    nancy_18am Peon

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    #35
    israel start with bombing arabs then hamas launch rockets
    israel should stop bombing arabs if she want hamas to stop
    ah ididnot hear that kingdom , sudan , iran and yemen attack any country and eliminate its people like israel do
     
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  16. uploas

    uploas Peon

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    #36
    Did you ever visited Israel? ah, I thought so. visit, and then we'll talk about who "eliminate" his people.
    Israel stooped bomb Arabs 3 months ago, but was it rockets-bombing-killing free 3 months?
    no. 4 bombs(Piguim), around 30-40 rockets, 14 shooting events inside Israel.
     
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  17. nancy_18am

    nancy_18am Peon

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    #37
    i donnot need to visit israel to know what happen
    israel makes her self adangerous place
     
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    kraftzy Active Member

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    #38
    I don't think it matters anyway. UK is not the main supplier of arms to Israel. As long as US is there Israel don't need to worry. Moreover, Israel is capable of developing most of their weapons themselves. So, I don't see any point here.
     
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    kraftzy Active Member

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    #39
    Can't help it with such friendly neighbors Israel has .. like Iran
     
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  20. iggysick

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    #40
    So how many wars Iran started so far?
     
    iggysick, Apr 25, 2009 IP