We all have to come up for the damage!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Arnie, Jul 30, 2006.

  1. #1
    That's what I believe and support.

    -- But we also have to come up with a long lasting solution concerning hezbollah, hamas and other terrorists.
    That said, one must clearly see that stopping the fight against hezbollah, hamas etc. and at this moment would make things worse on the long run.

    Everyone has to stand up against these troublemakers, especially in that region.
    Syria and Iran need to be humiliated at its best, because there are the brainworks of this humanitarian disaster done.

    Believe it or not, they simply don't care and a high civilian loss is well calculated in their attempt to stirr up more troubles and even doomsday, and for their convenience it happens in another country so they need to care even less, or do you believe in their propaganda, brotherhood ...?

    It's a choice to make; -- doomsday or peace -- it's Yours - choose now.
     
    Arnie, Jul 30, 2006 IP
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    #2

    sorry , i do not intend to take any side
    but is it syria and iran that are responsibe for killing the kids and civillians
     
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    worse for who , because for lebanese who's country is destroyed and children killed i think there is no worse

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  4. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    Frankly answered, YES!!!
    And if you're able to lay aside your emotions and try to analyze the whole situation you will come to the same or similar conclusion.
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    It will become worse for all that suffer with the victims, for all that suffer for peace, for all that suffer for freedom, whether those countries/people are directly or not involved at all.

    Now go to analyze the situation. Give it a try.
     
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    i mean is it syria or iran that are bombing the kids and civillians??

    maybe they are profiting from it , but the ones who are doing it are isaelis

    i have nothing against israelis and israel but they are doing wrong things here

    they are killing kids with planes ...... this is not acceptable human wise

    we should not defend what shouldn't be defended

    we should pressure for peace everywhere.

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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    If you look at the guns fireing only you will not get any answer and you will only support irans and syrias propganda against a free world.

    And to the contrary, civilians were asked more than once to leave by Israel and hezbollah doesn't let them go.
     
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    And then those who resist to leave.
    I haven't heard any case of looting yet. Miracolous indeed.
    Has the lebanese government given order to leave yet? I would if I would be in authority.
     
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    #9
    i understand your idea but ,
    let's keep in mind that all the politicians : bush ,iran chiefs ,syria chiefs ,israel chiefs ,.... think they are playing a chess game where they simply do not care a lot about the poor civillians.

    but what really anoys me is that israel is using airforce
    to kill kids and UN soldiers , which means that we do not care about humanbeings.
     
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    hezbollah doesn't let them go? lol, you mean israel bombed 70% of the roads so they could not leave.

    Also what about people who could not leave ? ones with no cars? disablied ? tramps? ill?

    Just because they told them to leave does not make it right they they killed them. They still did it and knew what they were doing.
     
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    #11
    leave go where??
    i know if someday our neighbor country decided to invade us and told us leave we are invading, i won't leave , it is not easy to leave your house and stuff and become homeless in another region somewhere.

    i prefer to stay and risk death (and why should i , if i'm no fighter) than become homeless.
     
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    #12
    It's the tragedy within itself and called "WAR" and exactly that is what's going on there.

    Would be great to be able to desire peace to happen in no time. I'd be the first to make it happen if I only could.

    BUT the problem needs to be accessed by its roots which caused and still is causing this situation, or else no peace possible.
     
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    also look at it this way you have a murder hiding in one of the gardens down your street, but because they cant find which one they are going to bomb everyone to kill him. Its fine because they have told you to leave so it does not matter. if you have not left and they kill you its fine also because they told you to leave.

    If everyone acted like israel is then the world would be a 100x worse than it already is.
     
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    Would you go looting in the night then? ;) - Just kidding you, I know you wouldn't.

    If you prefer to stay and risk death then its your choice.
    I'd recommend to be homeless for a while than being death, you and your beloved ones.

    It's a WAR and not a computer game where you can start all over again and again.
     
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    In a civilised country they evacuate the neighbourhood before going after the culprit :) and usually people follow quickley and don't think to much first.
     
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    you're wrong again i'll do it, because probably there would be no more food in the region , so i'll check if the neighbors left some stuff before leaving
    but if i find nothing i'll just cook some grass ....
     
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    #17
    At least you are honest, but it's a bad deal anyway.
     
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    #18
    there is nothing wrong with looting for food etc.

    but looting for goods that you are gaining for a profit. now that would be wrong.
     
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    Out of logic eeh?
    If everyone thinks like that - everyone will be dead then.

    there must be an order to leave by the lebanese govt in this particular case. There's no way around it.
     
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    everyone would be dead if they dint think like that ( they would starve ).

    why would people die from looting ?

    you saying that if there was a war where you was and you could not leave and you had not eaten for 18days you would not loot? rofl
     
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