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Ways google can algorithmically identify paid links

Discussion in 'Google' started by imnajam, Aug 16, 2007.

  1. Dennis de Jong

    Dennis de Jong Guest

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    #21
    Hire someone to check DP everyday and ask for paid links.
    That would be a good way to stop paid links ;-0
     
    Dennis de Jong, Aug 16, 2007 IP
  2. andreas21

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    #22
    In my opinion they just found a filter that dont count backlinks for specific scrpts and those filters ban also domains which have installed those scripts
    I can tell for sure thats this 2 are included

    Million Pixel Script
    Wordcloud
     
    andreas21, Aug 16, 2007 IP
  3. venetsian

    venetsian Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Yep That's the way it is. Also I'd like to add that there is nothing bad in having paid links, the only thing that google is saying that they will do against your websites that have paid links is that they won't pass them any value which is perfectly ok with me.

    Now if you buy links then you would like your links to have some value passed and therefore you should be smart on where you buy links from.

    Note that RELEVANT LINKS are always passed value!! As google said -- relevant links improve your site's value as they give more information on that particular theme/topic. Therefore its not that bad to buy/link/exchange with relevant websites with idea that "you're not doing it to boost rankings" and only to "mutually improve site quality with multiple references" :D

    Cheers,

    Venetsian.
     
    venetsian, Aug 16, 2007 IP
  4. Dennis de Jong

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    #24
    PHP Link building directories maybe. All those that did not pay the 25 buck for the script but have the link still in the footer haha
     
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  5. bogart

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    #25
    If you have a balanced link profile purchasing paid links shouldn't be an issue.
     
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  6. Napoleon

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    #26
    By scanning the link sales forum in dp and other popular boards.
     
    Napoleon, Aug 16, 2007 IP
  7. cdmp3player

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    #27

    This will be one of most important
     
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  8. Alan Murray

    Alan Murray Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Whether a link is relevant has nothing to do with PR. Non-relevant links pass exactly the same amount as relevant sites.
     
    Alan Murray, Aug 17, 2007 IP
  9. wokaka

    wokaka Peon

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    #29
    well, then is this the dead of SEO? How to get higher place in targeted keywords then?
     
    wokaka, Aug 17, 2007 IP
  10. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #30
    I think they are not going to ban sites those are selling links , imo they are going to devalue the links that they are suspicious.
     
    zangief, Aug 17, 2007 IP
  11. imnajam

    imnajam Well-Known Member

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    #31
    I agree with your comment, google is not against directories but against paid links for sole purpose of manipulating PR.

    I am not certain and have no correct idea about this but I presume that google will not penalize, but take away juice(s) of the link from the site selling links, so this way the link will be of no use to both parties in search engine perspective(like they do for nofollow links)

    I agree with the statement, it's like 1000 unrelevent link, and 1 relevent link is nearly equal, or the relevent one could weigh higher than all those 1000.

    Nothing is supposed to be 100%, however google will try their level best to degrade paid links, who knows their level of success? and the quality of service?

    I would comment not to presume or under estimate google:) but I agree that they would not be able to 100% eliminate the paid links. there will be some way out, and the door remains opened.

    Agreed, but who knows the limit?

    It could be one of the several factors, but not that much considerable, because sometimes peoples do post their legitimate links in footer, for example webmasters put, designed by <their site url/link here>

    I guess they can automate, or semi-automate the process (like the google adsense fraud clicks are tracked via all 3 methods i.e 1-automatic, 2-semi automatic, 3-totally manual)

    It doesn't matter if you agree or not, the changes that have to take place, will take on time :) just wait and watch, atleast I am seeing rapid progress in this regard(I could be wrong)

    Some questions are remained unexplainable, may be we could figure it out in future, my thought about this is "why don't google ban yahoo dir: because they charge 1 time editorial fee" the same can be taken for w3c(MAY BE, I'm not sure at all)

    Unrelated links already have very low juice in them, but I don't think we can predict paid links in this regard, but it could be one of the factor.

    How you could be so sure?We can suspect for these but cannot assure them.

    Agreed with you to certain extent, 1 good point extracted is paid link will always be useful for bringing traffic from referral site, google only dislikes getting paid link for the sole purpose of increasing PR.

    Only Link building is not the seo, there are other factors that includes but are not limited to onsite optimization, press releases, and natural links to your site.

    I have a very same opinion :)

    I have replied to the most of comments I guess I could reply, and I think that I should reply, however all my comments shows only my perspective with no offense intended.
     
    imnajam, Aug 17, 2007 IP
  12. andreas21

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    #32
    I m sure because google ban me 3 domains with this scripts
    and you can try yourself if you want jus install the script on a high PR domain and you will get your answer in 2 days
     
    andreas21, Aug 17, 2007 IP
  13. imnajam

    imnajam Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Could be true, thanks for sharing your experience.

     
    imnajam, Aug 17, 2007 IP