Kalvin, am I off your ignore list now? I'm still curious to know if you would refer to yourself as a "Zionist". Re: waterboarding, the Senate recently declared it torture consistent with the Geneva Convention. If you would like to know what definition was used, please contact Senators McCain and Levin. I'm sure their offices would be happy to provide you with the necessary criteria. It was also illegal in the Spanish-American war and a US Major received 10 years for using it on a prisoner in the Philippines. A Japanese interrogator was tried for war crimes for using water boarding on captured US airmen during WWII. The US military banned the tactic during Vietnam. The US army Field manual prohibits waterboarding. Do we still need to debate that it is 1) a war crime, and 2) illegal? A man has already been tried for it as a war crime. Give me a break.